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Post by Thinkforyourself Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:44 am

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When light of any kind shines through a dense medium it appears larger, or rather gives a greater glare, at a given distance than when it is seen through a lighter medium. This is more remarkable when the medium holds aqueous particles or vapor in solution, as in a damp or foggy atmosphere. You can see this by standing within a few yards of a street lamp, and noticing the size of the light; on going away to many times the distance, the light upon the atmosphere will appear considerably larger. This phenomenon may be noticed, to a greater or less degree, at all times; but when the air is moist and vapory it is more intense. It is evident that at sunrise, and at sunset, the sun's light must shine through a greater length of atmospheric air than at mid-day; besides which, the air near the earth is both more dense, and holds more watery particles in solution, than the higher strata through which the sun shines at noonday; and hence the light must be dilated or magnified, as well as modified in color. So the Sun as it sets towards the horizon, from a viewer's perspective on Earth, simultaneously gets bigger due to the reason given above, AND smaller due to the law of perspective. The net result is what you see.

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Notice how the distant lights have a brighter/bigger glare even though they're further away? Here they mention many contributing factors (wavelength, difraction, air pressure, air temperature, width of aperature, altitude, humidity, clarity) all contributing to the net result. The amount/degree to which the Sun/Moon will be magnified (due to the above reasons) and shrink (due to law of perspective) will depend on all of the above. Hence why sometimes you'll see video of the Moon shrinking off into nothingness like here, and sometimes you'll see it magnified like here:

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"The Moon’s warm color when seen at lower angles is caused by the relatively larger amount of of atmosphere through which one is observing it as compared to when the moon is right overhead. This additional atmosphere scatters the bluish component of the light of the moon, making the low-lying moon appear redder to the observer’s eyes. If you look later when the moon is higher above the horizon, you’ll see it appears much whiter than earlier in the evening." -ENature.com

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Post by Beashambassador Wed May 18, 2016 7:26 pm

Horizon Rising Flat Earth Sunset

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Post by Admin Wed May 25, 2016 7:19 am

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Post by FL@T-E@RTH Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:53 pm

Excellent, simply excellent!

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Post by FL@T-E@RTH Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:54 pm

Why are not people praising the above post by Eric?
It is without doubt a 100% proof of the Flat Earth...
FFS, it seems that people all want some kind of God acceptance, when it is in fact right before your eyes!
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Post by Schpankme Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:01 am

FL@T-E@RTH wrote:
Why are not people praising the above post by Eric?
It is without doubt a 100% proof of the Flat Earth...

people want some kind of God acceptance
it is in fact right before your eyes!

Interesting, the video was created by another Christpsychotic who's goal is to Create flat Earth FACTS around State Sponsored Theism (FICTION). This information is further elaborated by me in the comment section of this ODD video re-dub.

Maybe you can explain why you've returned a second time in a row, to praise Eric for a video he did not create?
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Post by FL@T-E@RTH Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:44 am

Because it is an important video, the content is superb.
Forget who made it, whether he is a religious nut is irrelevant, he never mentions any religious garbage throughout the video anyway.
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Post by Admin Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:08 am

The trolls always ask to see a video of zooming the Sun back in as it sets to prove it's not disappearing beneath the ball Earth.  Here you go:

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Post by damnice Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:43 am

Admin wrote:The trolls always ask to see a video of zooming the Sun back in as it sets to prove it's not disappearing beneath the ball Earth.  Here you go:
The reflection of the sun on the water ALONE disproves curvature. It's one of the simplest testable visible proofs, the reflection going all the way from your feet to the horizon...repeat that on a ball.
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Post by Admin Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:35 pm

Moving away and lowering due to perspective:

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Post by iwanttobefree Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:14 pm

here is a good explanation on why the sun doesn't shrink so much when it moves away from the observer.


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Post by Admin Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:54 pm

Why Do the Sun and Moon Get Bigger Near the Horizon?



Often when globe Earthers hear that the law of perspective is the reason that ships disappear beyond the horizon, as well as the reason that the Sun and Moon rise and set in the sky, their next question is why, then, do the Sun and Moon appear to get bigger near the horizon? Understandably, a long row of streetlamps appears to rise in height until reaching overhead and then sets on the horizon, similar to the Sun and Moon, but unlike the Sun and Moon, the lampposts, boats, and most other things claimed to disappear due to perspective also shrink in size as they recede from the observer. So why, if the Sun and Moon rise and set due to the law of perspective, do they also not appear to shrink as they approach the horizon?
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Post by Koubenakombi Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:08 pm

I agree... anyone thinking the sun may shrink is not dealing with a perspective issue, but ego... their ego are expanded! Believing only in what the eye may see will keep a person spinning in space... at least in their imagination! jocolor

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Post by John Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:49 pm

Is perspective a law?
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Post by tycho_brahe Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:34 am

John wrote:Is perspective a law?

I get this question a lot. There are popular known and accepted scientific laws such as The Laws of Motion or the Law of Thermodynamics. Laws are repeatable and replicated by peers within the community. Science has always agreed experiments need to be tested and tested again and have the ability to be replicated by their peers. All with the same expected results or predictions. It must be based on experiments or observations with predicted results. The laws of motion, thermodynamics, and perspective are repeatable and replicated with experimentation or observations by other scientists. Yielding the same results or predictions. Now there’s one accepted law that is accepted outright. It has never been repeated yielding the predicted results, scientists the world over cannot replicate their finding. They all conclude with differing results. It’s the fake Law of Gravity. Never tested or repeated or replicated by scientists. The Law of Gravity on a helium balloon? Or a stretched slinky released from a rooftop. Not a law. Now there are many scientific processes that share like experiments or observations with accurate predictions yet we don’t call them laws.
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Post by fosborn_ Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:02 pm

Admin wrote:Why Do the Sun and Moon Get Bigger Near the Horizon?    



their next question is why, then, do the Sun and Moon appear to get bigger near the horizon?  Understandably, a long row of streetlamps appears to rise in height until reaching overhead and then sets on the horizon, similar to the Sun and Moon, but unlike the Sun and Moon, the lampposts, boats, and most other things claimed to disappear due to perspective also shrink in size as they recede from the observer.  So why, if the Sun and Moon rise and set due to the law of perspective, do they also not appear to shrink as they approach the horizon?  

I have always tested the appearance of atmospheric magnifications of the sun and moon before the vanishing point by using a foreground object as a comparison. During the sun or moon's position high in the sky, I would use my pinky finger nail at arm's length as a comparison. then at the horizon. I noted each time that there was no magnification only an optical illusion. the luminaries were on the same scale as the first comparisons high in the sky. It's so cool that holding a foreground object at arm's length breaks the illusion and you clearly see no magnification.

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Post by Thedynamicfox Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:16 pm

Thank you for the explanation.

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Post by gelk1984 Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:01 pm

I’m struggling to understand the moon, it looks bright like a luminary however when it’s zoomed in on the light disappears and it looks then like a grey rock. Does anyone have an explanation for why the light from the moon disappears when zoomed in?

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Post by colander bowl Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:41 pm

gelk1984 wrote:I’m struggling to understand the moon, it looks bright like a luminary however when it’s zoomed in on the light disappears and it looks then like a grey rock. Does anyone have an explanation for why the light from the moon disappears when zoomed in?

I am looking at fresh moon pics right now.  They are in color.  But you have a good question.

Two astrophotographers have captured "the most ridiculously detailed" photo of the moon

"In the tribute image, the pair managed to capture significant color data that highlights the reds, grays, blues and browns that help make the moon so unique. Without Matherne's ability to capture this data, McCarthy said on Reddit, the image would have been a "dreary gray."

"The color in this image is real, but presented with increased saturation so it is easily visible to our eyes," he wrote. "The reddish tones demonstrate areas rich in iron and feldspar, while the bluish areas are spots where the regolith is rich in titanium. Oxidization from influence from Earth's atmosphere makes the colors appear like they do.""

https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/moon-photo-two-astrophotographers-captured-most-ridiculously-detailed-picture/

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Post by tycho_brahe Wed Aug 24, 2022 5:43 am

gelk1984 wrote:I’m struggling to understand the moon, it looks bright like a luminary however when it’s zoomed in on the light disappears and it looks then like a grey rock. Does anyone have an explanation for why the light from the moon disappears when zoomed in?

I don’t think it’s a question of the moon “losing” its light but more about the mechanics of a camera. Aperture will adjust with a bright object. If you aim your mobile phone camera to the TV it first appears as a blinding white light and then it adjusts to the image detail expected. You can try that experiment at home. Same with the sun. We can barely look at the sun with the naked eye for less then a second however we can observe time-lapse videos or photos of the sun. Also moonlight and sunlight have different properties.

A great thread and video on the different properties between the sun and moon.

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t16-the-flat-moon-over-the-flat-earth
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Post by colander bowl Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:40 pm

Thinking about the Moon's illumination and comparing it to a highway billboard.

I think there are only three choices of illumination for a billboard/Moon.

Spotlight billboard

"a spot of light used to show up a particular area, person, or thing"

Backlit billboard

Backlit describes advertising structures or billboards that have illumination which sends light through the advertisement for higher visibility. Ads must be printed on special translucent surfaces.

OLED billboard

"An OLED display works without a backlight because it emits visible light. Thus, it can display deep black levels and can be thinner and lighter than a liquid crystal display (LCD)."

Any others?

Which method likely illuminates the Moon?

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Post by gelk1984 Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:59 pm

Thanks for the responses, I’m struggling to see how the moon can be classed as a luminary then, it doesn’t look to me like it’s creating it’s own light at all. The post from colander bowl above with the colour photos clearly looks like a rock to me, it also looks like ball if you look at the shading of it.

I’m still questioning all of this because I see good arguments for flat earth and globe and I haven’t a clue who is telling the truth and who isn’t. The moon description I’ve been hearing doesn’t make sense based on photos like these where it clearly looks like a solid object

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Post by gelk1984 Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:06 pm

tycho_brahe wrote:
gelk1984 wrote:I’m struggling to understand the moon, it looks bright like a luminary however when it’s zoomed in on the light disappears and it looks then like a grey rock. Does anyone have an explanation for why the light from the moon disappears when zoomed in?

I don’t think it’s a question of the moon “losing” its light but more about the mechanics of a camera. Aperture will adjust with a bright object. If you aim your mobile phone camera to the TV it first appears as a blinding white light and then it adjusts to the image detail expected. You can try that experiment at home. Same with the sun. We can barely look at the sun with the naked eye for less then a second however we can observe time-lapse videos or photos of the sun. Also moonlight and sunlight have different properties.

A great thread and video on the different properties between the sun and moon.

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t16-the-flat-moon-over-the-flat-earth

This is true regarding the camera but zoom in on the sun and the light doesn’t disappear like the moon. This tells me that the moon simply isn’t its own light source like the sun is, and it looks just like a physical rock. This is one part of following/learning flat earth theory that I just can’t subscribe to, I see no evidence that it’s anything other than a rock

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