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Post by TyrannicalSawdustRex Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:37 am

The moon does not reflect sunlight , or if it does then it alters the properties of sunlight.

The moon does not reflect light according to laws of optics and reflection therefore I can't see it as a sphere anymore .Education tells us it's a sphere but known scientific laws say otherwise.

There should be a hotspot in the centre of a full moon visible to the naked eye but there is none. Science is unable to offer an explanation of this . Magic moon dust is the best they can come up with. Spherical bodies scatter light in all directions according to the known laws of reflection

When I look through my telescopes I only see shadows at the edges of its disc which suggests to me its either slightly concave or convex. When I focus on the moons surface all of it is completely in focus , should that be or if the middle part of the full moon is 1000mls nearer shouldn't I have to adjust the focus. I am not sure this is correct though.

Perhaps it is a reflection onto the dome . It is a mystery even to science and honest astronomers.

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Post by Dactylion Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:19 pm

TyrannicalSawdustRex wrote:The moon does not reflect sunlight
Exactly. If it did, the light source would need to be somewhere in-front of it.

Which would mean we'd only see a full-moon during the day and with the sun's position between earth and the moon.

While a waxing/waning moon has a lit side in relation to the position of the sun from our perspective, there are other ways for this phenomenon to exist without it being the result of a reflective surface.

Consider for a moment that the sun and moon could be two lights reflected off the firmament/roof from another source, say atop Mt Meru at the centre. Like a lighthouse that casts its light in a circular motion across the sky 360 degrees, there very well could be a similar setup that is responsible for the sun and moon. The waxing/waning effect caused by a simple blocking of the lense.
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Post by TyrannicalSawdustRex Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:14 pm

Makes far more sense , Dactylion. Well worth considering.

I look at the moon through my telescopes and the shadows cast on the moons surface tell me it isn't spherical . Where are the long shadows which should be apparent when the moon is less than or half full.

Of course the nature of the moon and sun is unknown to us.

We are told that the moon reflects sunlight ,so why can't we see colours by moonlight ?
Officially we are told the human eye switches to rods from cones so we see in shades of black and white only.

So if we take a long exposure of the surroundings during the full moon a camera should pick up the colours we see in sunlight. Maybe I'm wrong but it's obvious that the spectrum of moonlight is different to sunlight. I'm not a photographer but I reckon camera lenses don't have rods and cones.

Scientific priesthood will tell tell us it is sunlight but it has been altered somehow by reflection from the moon. So they'll admit that it is different but still the same because it's different. Can't win with those buffoons.

Is mount Meru where earth's toroidal magnetic field emerges form the inner world? I ask myself. Beneath Polaris. Not saying the mountain doesn't exist by the way.

Anyhoo I see they have put a vending machine on the moon preparing for when the astronuts arrive. I'm sure you'll have seen the nice CGI.

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Post by TS0 Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:17 pm

I find the ideal that the moon cant reflect light a really odd belief my self. It obviously does, that's how we see it. Just like you see the ground in front of your feet walking through a desert. Rocks and dust which aren't flat or concaved, as Eric claims surfaces need to be in 200 proofs the earth isn't a spinning ball, yet they reflect light just fine. How else could we see them, here on on the surface of our own planet if they didn't?

Its like people know that claim in that video isn't true, otherwise we wouldn't see half the objects around us, yet still try to use the argument when discussing the moon. Its really bizarre.


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Post by colander bowl Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:54 pm

TS0 wrote:Just like you see the ground in front of your feet walking through a desert.

If while in the desert one lays on their back and holds a mirror at arms length, reflection side toward themselves/the sand during a full moon and there is a reflection in the mirror, does that prove moon light reflects off the Earth?

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Post by TS0 Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:42 am

colander bowl wrote:
TS0 wrote:Just like you see the ground in front of your feet walking through a desert.

If while in the desert one lays on their back and holds a mirror at arms length, reflection side toward themselves/the sand during a full moon and there is a reflection in the mirror, does that prove moon light reflects off the Earth?      

Not directly no it doesn't actually. Where's the moon at?  The moonlight itself could be hitting the mirror causing the ground directly in front of the mirror to be illuminated. Allowing for the appearance of a reflection. If the moon was behind the mirror then maybe. But the moon isn't the only source of light. There are also the stars and atmosphere conditions.

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Post by Dan-cer Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:19 am

TyrannicalSawdustRex wrote:The moon does not reflect sunlight , or if it does then it alters the properties of sunlight.

The moon does not reflect light according to laws of optics and reflection therefore I can't see it as a sphere anymore .Education tells us it's a sphere but known scientific laws say otherwise.

There should be a hotspot in the centre of a full moon visible to the naked eye but there is none. Science is unable to offer an explanation of this . Magic moon dust is the best they can come up with. Spherical bodies scatter light in all directions according to the known laws of reflection

When I look through my telescopes I only see shadows at the edges of its disc which suggests to me its either slightly concave or convex. When I focus on the moons surface all of it is completely in focus , should that be or if the middle part of the full moon is 1000mls nearer shouldn't I have to adjust the focus. I am not sure this is correct though.

Perhaps it is a reflection onto the dome . It is a mystery even to science and honest astronomers.
The moon not a sphere?
Maybe you mixed up two arguments about light reflection and self-illumination?
After reading the very interesting book "The Moon - Function & Cataclysm" by Flat Earther Waykiwayki I asked myself, if the shape of the moon could really be a sphere.
Why?
1. it is shown in the book that the moon produces its own light, i.e. it does not reflect sunlight.
2. it is shown that as the moon moves away towards the horizon, a disk shape would change to a narrower elipse. However, since the moon is still circular even directly on the horizon (at full moon), its shape cannot be disc-shaped, but should be spherical.
3. from the perspective of the flat earth, it is also not a contradiction if the moon circulate as a sphere. Since it produces its own light, the topic of hotspot reflection is out of place here.
4. There are a lot of other points in the book. I.e. the moon being a malfunctioning old sun. Worth reading the book to have some more arguments to discuss here.

What you think about that?
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Post by TyrannicalSawdustRex Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:03 pm

I have read the book now.

Your point 1.
Open to debate along with the question of how it could produce it's own light.

Point 2.
The moon is always circular because it is a reflection or image cast upon the celestial dome. The moon is not a sphere.

Point 3.
Perhaps you need to re-read chapter 5 of the book ,the chapter entitled "The Moon is Flat not Spherical". Outlines contradictions to your belief in a spherical moon.

Point 4.
Possibilities abound. Good thought provoking book.

Spent quite a time researching things like emission spectra differences between lunar and solar light .They are different. Incredibly difficult to find a real time lapse image of a complete lunar rise/set cycle.

Funny how such simple things are hidden from us .
Science is very evasive about our moon.

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