Polaris Seen From The Southern Hemi'sphere'

If were are spinning around an axis (and going in an elliptical orbit around the sun at the same time), then photos like this star trail time-lapse photo below would be absolutely impossible. How does it make any sense that -- if we are spinning on an axis -- that the North Star never moves… ever, and the other stars move in almost perfect circles around IT? It's only possible if we are motionless, the North Star is motionless, and the circular motion of the other stars around Polaris is simply the "nature" of what they do. This whole Polaris proof ALONE should be Case Closed.

All matches perfectly fine under the JEWsuits perspective

BlueAmber22 wrote:All matches perfectly fine under the JEWsuits perspective

What do you mean? On that BS tilted ball with curved water, you still can not see a star directly over the north point from anywhere south of the 'equator'.

:-) I think blueamber was referring to the number of the angle, thesilentone

It still boggles my mind that you can't see Polaris from beyond the Tropic of Capricorn, can anyone explain this in a laymen terms ? I've been trying to figure it out but cannot.

If you're standing at the North Pole, Polaris will be 90 degrees directly overhead. As you start traveling southwards, the law of perspective will cause Polaris to gradually decline in the sky. The further south you travel, the lower Polaris appears in the sky, until you reach approximately 20 degrees south latitude by which point Polaris descends beyond the horizon so people from that vantage point can no longer see it.

Some heliocentrists have even tried to suggest that the Pole Star’s gradual declination overhead as an observer travels southwards is proof of a globular Earth. Far from it, the declination of the Pole Star or any other object is simply a result of the Law of Perspective. The Law of Perspective dictates that the angle and height at which an object is seen diminishes the farther one recedes from the object, until at a certain point the line of sight and the seemingly uprising surface of the Earth converges to a vanishing point (i.e. the horizon line) beyond which the object is invisible.



“If we select a flat street a mile long, containing a row of lamps, it will be noticed that from where we stand the lamps gradually decline to the ground, the last one being apparently quite on the ground. Take the lamp at the end of the street and walk away from it a hundred yards, and it will appear to be much nearer the ground than when we were close to it; keep on walking away from it and it will appear to be gradually depressed until it is last seen on the ground and then disappears. Now, according to the astronomers, the whole mile was only depressed about eight inches from one end to the other, so that this 8 in. could not account for the enormous depression of the light as we recede from it. This proves that the depression of the Pole Star can and does take place in relation to a flat surface, simply because we increase our distance from it, the same as from the street lamp. In other words, the further away we get from any object above us, as a star for example, the more it is depressed, and if we go far enough it will sink (or appear to sink) to the horizon and then disappear. The writer has tried the street lamp many times with the same result.” -Thomas Winship, “Zetetic Cosmogeny” (34)

What if somebody in south america/africa/australia would zoom with these powerful cameras?

You should be able to get an approximated position by watching the others.
By zooming we should definitely be able to see it at least a couple of degree further south don't you guys think?

Malaysia is right about on the equator or just North of it and Polaris is still visible several degrees above the horizon, not sure how much farther South one could travel and still capture it above the horizon though. Would love to see a true South Hemisphere timelapse:

Fun fact: the planetarium is older than the globe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_planetariums

Admin wrote:
Malaysia is right about on the equator or just North of it
Polaris is still visible several degrees above the horizon

Seeing around the Curve



Night Sky in Indonesia

Polar as seen on a Sphere by Globe-gobblers
claiming Space Balls are real ... Water bends ...
Space Time is warped and asleep to sophist...
Non-Euclidean Geometry and General Relativity.



Polaris as seen by the material impression on the Spherical Retina inside the Eye-Globe(s) in your head,
and as seen by an Eye in the center of its own Visible Space and moving outwards from the centre.
Polaris apparent visible position on the inside surface of a 2D Sphere - observed visibles at that location.
Non-Euclidean Geometry and Common Real-eye-tivity. lol

Open Your Eyes - Realize - Real Lies

Watching a documentary last week on BBC - The secrets of Scott's Hut - about an hour in the narrator visits the Scott Polar Research Institute in London where he gains privileged access to diaries and letters written by the explorers during the long dark winter months .
     He reads a few poignant lines from various diaries but one really caught my attention
One letter wrote to a loved one includes this :
    " on starry nights I can look at the Great Bear knowing that you too can look at that also " or words to that effect.
     I know that this constellation is only partly visible in northern parts of the southern hemisphere according to science .Scott's hut is at 77 degrees south .
     No wonder the diaries and letters from these expeditions are kept away from public scrutiny .
    I know polar explorer Charles Mawson had to hand over his expedition diaries to a University in New Zealand . They were supposed to be printed but never were.
Some researchers/authors are allowed access to these and occasional snippets appear as quotes in books. I recall reading how , during the 4 month long summer day the radio guy on his expedition couldn't rig up or repair his anntennae because it was too dark during the night hours .
     There must be a load of info in all these records/diaries which are kept from us

There’s something I don’t understand; if the earth were a stationary ball spinning on an axis then of course there would be one central star (Polaris) that it rotates around. But sense it allegedly also circles the sun then how could it also keep one star (Polaris) as its rotational point? As the earth moves around the sun, then the pol star it points towards would have to change, right? And yet Polaris stays as the single point of rotation. Isn’t this impossible on a globe earth? Or is there an argument they make against this? Perhaps it being allegedly very very far away would change this? If not then it seems like this would be conclusive proof, right?

It is absolutely conclusive proof, but as you guessed, they simply claim that because Polaris is "trillions" of miles away and the ball Earth only travels millions of miles around the Sun, no parallax is observable because "it's too far away."

I see. That is absurd. And very convenient for them.

What about in the south? Do they claim there is a South Pole Star? According to FE model there shouldn’t be, right? If someone in the south could prove there wasn’t that would be conclusive, right?

Thanks for the video. Interesting. I didn’t know the star patterns would actually look similar on both models. Perspective is a tricky to think about. even though we experience it everyday we don’t consider it on such huge scales. I’m going to have take some time to wrap my mind around it. I wonder if building a scale model would help. Though maybe be too big. Thanks!

Think you're not quite grasping what the videos are telling you. What we see in the movement of the stars is a good fit in the stationary flat earth model .

Globe model requires that all stars must be motionless and orientated to the earth N/S spin axis since - odds against this must be astronomical ha.

No need to build a scale model - that's is essentially what an Astrolabe is .

Why isn't Polaris Visible from Australia?



Globe Earthers are taught the reason that the North Pole Star cannot be seen from southern locations like Australia or New Zealand is because it is hidden behind the supposed curvature of their globular Earth. Similar to what is taught about boats disappearing beyond the horizon, they claim these boats and the Pole Star are disappearing behind the physical curvature of a globe, and insist if the Earth was truly a stationary plane that Australians should have no trouble viewing Polaris...

Anyone have a photo or any kind a proof (source) that polaris is visible at the southern hemisphere? I Need it for a debate. Thanks for the help.

https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-resources/transparency-and-atmospheric-extinction/

This article tells you about the effects of atmosphere when viewing stars from various latitudes . Doesn't mention the effects of atmospheric refraction , better described as magnetic refraction in my view.

Also the belief that the equator is at 0 degrees latitude is a heliocentric globe earth fallacy.

Ships logs from those that ventured south of the equator pre 20th century should contain information on viewing Polaris . Be hard to get hold of these though

Now this is something rather interesting and disturbing at the same time.
Almost 9 years ago an inquiry for an actual image of Polaris made from lands south of the equator was posted here and no one from those lands has taken time to make this photo evidence.