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The class “Dinosauria” was originally defined by “Sir” Richard Owen of the Royal Society, and Superintendent of the British Museum Natural History Department in 1842.  In other words, the existence of dinosaurs was first speculatively hypothesized by a knighted museum-head “coincidentally” in the mid-19th century, during the heyday of evolutionism, before a single dinosaur fossil had ever been found.  The Masonic media and mainstream press worldwide got to work hyping stories of these supposed long-lost animals, and then lo and behold, 12 years later in 1854, Ferdinand Vandiveer Hayden  during his exploration of the upper Missouri River, found “proof” of Owen’s theory!  A few unidentified teeth he mailed to leading paleontologist Joseph Leidy, who several years later declared them to be from an ancient extinct “Trachodon,” dinosaur (which beyond ironically means “rough tooth”).



Firstly, it should be needless to say that it is impossible to reconstruct an entire hypothetical ancient animal based on a few teeth!  But even more importantly, it is dubious that a myriad of ancient reptile/bird and reptile/mammal transitional forms necessary for the blossoming theory of evolution, would be hypothesized and then conveniently “discovered” by teams of evolutionist archeologists purposely out looking to find such fossils!  And it is even more dubious that such fossils have supposedly existed for millions of years but were never found by or known to any civilization in the history of humanity until evolutionism’s Masonic renaissance in the mid-19th century!

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“Why are there no discoveries by native Americans in all the years previous when they roamed the American continents?  There is no belief of dinosaurs in the Native American religion or tradition.  For that matter, why were there no discoveries prior to the nineteenth century in any part of the world?  According to the World Book Encyclopedia, ‘before the 1800’s no one ever knew that dinosaurs existed.’  During the late 1800’s and early 1900’s, large deposits of dinosaur remains were discovered …Why has man suddenly made all these discoveries?”  -David Wozney, “Dinosaurs: Science or Science Fiction”

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No tribes, cultures or countries in the world ever discovered a dinosaur bone before the mid-1800s, and then they were suddenly found all over the world in North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Argentina, Belgium, Mongolia, Tanzania, West Germany and many other places apparently had large deposits of dinosaur fossils never before seen.  All these places were inhabited and well-explored for thousands of years before this time, why had no one ever found a dinosaur fossil before?

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According to the book, “The Dinosaur Project,” paleontological journalist Wayne Grady claims the period following this, from around 1870 to 1880 became “a period in North America where some of the most underhanded shenanigans in the history of science were conducted.”  In what was known as “The Great Dinosaur Rush” or “Bone Wars,” Edward Drinker Cope of the  Academy of Natural Sciences and Othniel Marsh of the Peabody Museum of Natural History, began a life-long rivalry and passion for “dinosaur hunting.”  They started out as friends but became bitter enemies during a legendary feud involving double-crossing, slander, bribery, theft, spying, and destruction of bones by both parties.  Marsh is said to have discovered over 500 different ancient species including 80 dinosaurs, while Cope discovered 56.  Out of the 136 dinosaur species supposedly discovered by the two men, however, only 32 are presently considered valid; the rest have all proven to be falsifications and fabrications!  None of them once claimed to find a complete skeleton either, so all their work involved reconstructions.  In fact, to this day no complete skeleton has ever been found, and so all dinosaurs are reconstructions.

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“Discoveries and excavations seem not to be made by disinterested people, such as farmers, ranchers, hikers, outdoor recreationists, building construction industry basement excavators, pipeline trench diggers, and mining industry personnel but rather by people with vested interests, such as paleontologists, scientists, university professors, and museum organization personnel who were intentionally looking for dinosaur bones or who have studied dinosaurs previously.  The finds are often made during special dinosaur-bone hunting trips and expeditions by these people to far-away regions already inhabited and explored.  This seems highly implausible.  More believable is the case of the discovery of the first original Dead Sea scrolls in 1947, which were unintentionally discovered by a child, and which were all published by 1955.  In some cases of a discovery of dinosaur bones by a disinterested person, it was suggested to them by some ‘professional’ in the field to look or dig in a certain area.  Also very interesting to note are special areas set aside and designated as dinosaur parks for which amateur dinosaur hunters are required to first obtain a dinosaur hunting license.”  -David Wozney, “Dinosaurs: Science or Science Fiction”

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Whatever destination these establishment-funded archeologists and paleontologists set, it seemed they found incredible numbers of fossils in tiny areas.  In one of the largest dinosaur excavation sites, called the Ruth Mason Quarry, over 2,000 fossils were allegedly discovered.  Casts and original skeletons assembled from these bones are currently on display in over 60 museums world-wide.  Florentino Ameghino, head of paleontology at La Plata Museum is amazingly responsible for 6,000 fossil species supposedly discovered throughout his career all in Argentina.  Dinosaur hunter Earl Douglass sent 350 tons of excavated “dinosaur” bones to the Carnegie Museum of Natural History throughout his career, all coming from the “Dinosaur National Monument” in Utah.  During an expedition to Patagonia, Dr. Luis Chiappe and Dr. Lowell Dingus supposedly discovered thousands of dinosaur eggs at a site of only a few hundred square yards.  Many experts have mentioned how such finds of huge quantities of fossils in one area, by just a few highly-invested individuals, goes against the laws of natural probability and lends credence to the likelihood of forgeries or concentrated planting efforts.

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“‘Dinosaur’ bones sell for a lot of money at auctions. It is a profitable business. There is pressure for academics to publish papers. Museums are in the business of producing displays that are popular and appealing. Movie producers and the media need to produce material to sell to stay in business. The mainstream media loves to hype alleged dinosaurs finds. Much is to be gained by converting a bland non-dinosaur discovery, of a bone of modern origin, into an impressive dinosaur find, and letting artists' interpretations and imaginations take the spotlight, rather than the basic boring real find. There are people who desire and crave prestige, fame and attention. There is the bandwagon effect and crowd behaviour. And then there are people and entities pursuing political and religious agendas. Highly rewarding financial and economic benefits to museums, educational and research organizations, university departments of paleontology, discoverers and owners of dinosaur bones, and the book, television, movie, and media industries may cause sufficient motivations for ridiculing of open questioning and for suppression of honest investigation.”  -David Wozney, “Dinosaurs: Science or Science Fiction”.

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The fact that “T-Rex” bones have sold at auctions for upwards of $12 million shows how lucrative the field of dinosaur-hunting can be, and it just happens to be Museum officials who serendipitously seem to make the most prolific finds!  The first dinosaur to ever be publicly displayed was the “Hadrosaurus foulkii,” at  Edward Drinker Cope’s Academy of Natural Sciences in Philidelphia.  The bones were co-discovered by Joseph Leidy, Cope’s esteemed professor, and the man responsible for the “Trachodon” toothosaurus.  The original Hadrosaurus reconstruction, which is still on display today, shows a huge plaster cast bipedal reptile standing upright using its tail as a third-leg.  What few people know, however, is that no skull was ever discovered and no original bones were put in the public exhibit.

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“A visual and a sculptural artist were promptly hired to invent a skull, and from the illustrations of another artist, who had depicted the Iguanadon, the two artists drew the same face for the Hadrosaurus foulkii.  The people involved could now technically defend the existence of this dinosaur, if someone were to ask.  The stunt worked out so well, and fooled the public so thoroughly, that they could later change the head of the creature without anyone noticing.  To this day, Hadrosaurus foulkii is on display at the Academy of Natural Sciences in Philadelphia.  The bones are said to be kept behind heavy, closed doors, but a plaster copy is exhibited in their place … So we learn of an iguana skull being substituted for the skull of a dinosaur on display. Was the public told at the time? What are we not being told today?”  -David Wozney, “Dinosaurs: Science or Science Fiction”

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What we are not being told is that this is the rule and the not the exception.  To this day not a single complete skeleton of any dinosaur has ever been found!  All the museum displays, models, mannequins, cartoons, and movies of prehistoric monsters you have ever seen are all imaginative reconstructions based on incomplete skeletons arranged in a manner paleontologists believe to be most realistic.  Furthermore, the skeletons exhibited in museums are all admittedly intricate fabrications made of plaster, fiberglass, various epoxies, and other animal bones, not original fossils.

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When “dinosaur” bones are transported and prepared they use strips of burlap soaked in plaster to jacket over the fossils.  Then after applying a tissue separator to keep the plaster from direct contact with the bone, the soaked burlap strips are laid on until it is totally encased in a protective mummy-like coating ready for safe transport.  In an article titled “A Fossil’s Trail From Excavation to Exhibit” one insider remarked that, “Through moldmaking and casting we can totally fabricate limbs, ribs, vertebrae, etc., for the missing pieces of an articulated skeletal mount.  Plaster, fiberglass and epoxies are often and commonly used.  In reconstruction work on single bones, small to large cracks can be filled in with mache or plaster mixed with dextrin, a starch that imparts an adhesive quality and extra hardness to regular molding plaster.  We’ve also had success using epoxy putties.  Large missing fragments can be sculpted directly in place with these same materials.”  In other words, Museum personnel work with plaster and other materials to transport and fabricate skeletons and missing or incomplete bones all the time.  In fact, the huge “dinosaur bone” displays found in museums across the world are admittedly carefully prepared fakes!  No independent researcher has ever examined a real dinosaur skull!  They claim all the actual fossils are kept in high-security storage, but only a select few paleontologists are ever allowed to examine them, so the ability to ascertain their authenticity is kept from the general public.

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“Most people believe that dinosaur skeletons displayed in museums consist of real dinosaur bones.  This is not the case.  The real bones are incarcerated in thick vaults to which only a select few highly placed researchers hold a key, which means that NO independent researcher has ever handled a tyrannosaurus rex bone.  When people unaffiliated with the paleontological establishment attempt to gain access in order to study these dinosaur bones, they are met with refusal upon refusal … Only around 2100 dinosaur bones sets have been discovered worldwide, and out of these, only 15 incomplete Tyrannosaurus Rex bone sets have been found.  These dinosaur bone sets have never formed a complete skeleton, but from these incomplete bones sets, paleontologists have constructed a hypothesis about the appearance of the whole skeleton, which they have modeled in plastic.  If thousands of longnecks and large carnivorous reptiles had really roamed Earth, we wouldn’t only have found 2100 dinosaur bone sets, but millions of bones, with ordinary people tripping over them when digging in their vegetable patches.”  -Robbin Koefoed, “The Dinosaurs Never Existed”

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“When children go to a dinosaur museum, are the displays they see displays of science or displays of art and science fiction?  Are we being deceived and brainwashed at an early age into believing a dinosaur myth?  Deep probing questions need to be asked of the entire dinosaur business.  There may have been an ongoing effort since the earliest dinosaur ‘discoveries’ to plant, mix and match bones of various animals, such as crocodiles, alligators, iguanas, giraffes, elephants, cattle, kangaroos, ostriches, emus, dolphins, whales, rhinoceroses, etc. to construct and create a new man-made concept prehistoric animal called the dinosaur.  Where bones from existing animals are not satisfactory for deception purposes, plaster substitutes may be manufactured and used.  Some material similar or superior to plasticine clay or plaster of Paris would be suitable.  Molds may also be employed.  What would be the motivation for such a deceptive endeavor?  Obvious motivations include trying to prove evolution, trying to disprove or cast doubt on the Christian Bible and the existence of the Christian God, and trying to disprove the ‘young-earth theory.’  The dinosaur concept implies that if God exists, He tinkered with His idea of dinosaurs for awhile, then probably discarded or became tired of this creation and then went on to create man.  The presented dinosaur historical timeline suggests an imperfect God who came up with the idea of man as an afterthought, thus demoting the biblical idea that God created man in His own image.”  -David Wozney, “Dinosaurs: Science or Science Fiction”

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Type “Dinosaur Skulls” into a search engine and you will find a variety of replicas, tailor made dinosaurs, and “museum-quality” skeletons.  One of the largest and most-renowned suppliers of fake dinosaurs is the Zigong Dino Ocean Art Company in Sichuan, China which provides natural history museums worldwide with ultra-realistic dinosaur skeletons made from real bones!  Chicken, frog, dog, cat, horse and pig’s bones are melted down, mixed with glue, resin and plaster, then used as base material for re-casting as “dinosaur bones.”  They are even given intentional fractures and an antiquated/fossilized look to achieve the right effect.  Their website boasts, “Over 62% of our output goes to American and European markets, which means we will understand and are familiar with the intricacies and regulation of exporting to these regions …  Since we are a partner of Dinosaur Museums, all products are made under the guidance of experts of the Chinese Academy of Sciences … We have gained a global sales network reaching the USA, Brazil, France, Poland, Russia, Germany, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Thailand, Indonesia, exhibited in Peru, Argentina, Vancouver, Cincinnati, Chicago and other places.”

“I have heard there is a fake-fossil factory in northeast China, in Liaoning Province, near the deposits where many of these recent alleged feather dinosaurs were found.”  -Alan Feduccia, University of North Carolina Paleontology Professor

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“The possibility exists that key dinosaur bones on display have been artificially modified through sculpture and carving.  Bone sculpture is not an unknown human activity.  Many cultures participate in creating man-made objects out of existing bones, totally unrecognizable from the original shape.  Is the dinosaur industry a customer of this sort of business?  Is it possible that dinosaur skeleton replica are secretly assembled or manufactured in private buildings out of public view, with bones artificially constructed or used from a number of different modern-day animals?  Why bother having any authentic original fossils at all if alleged replicas please the public?”  -David Wozney, “Dinosaurs: Science or Science Fiction”

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Another problem with dinosaurs is their unnatural structural dynamics.  Many dinosaur skeletons and reconstructions feature bipedal monsters like the T-Rex with a forward-leaning torso and head far larger and heavier than its counter-balancing tail.  Many museum displays cannot even stand up under their own weight; it is highly unlikely that beasts this large and disproportionate could exist at all.  The loads acting on their skeletons are so great that calculations indicate the bones of the largest dinosaurs would buckle and crack under their own immense weight!  Experts have also pointed out that dinosaurs would have to have moved much slower than portrayed in movies to prevent sudden shocks to their skeletons.

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“This idea of slow moving animals does not agree with the bio-mechanical analysis of dinosaurs, which indicate that the Dinosaurs were agile, active creatures.  This is the paradox between the Dinosaurs size and lifestyle.  Many displays and drawings of dinosaurs appear to be an absurdity, showing a two-legged animal that would be totally off-balance, with the weight of head and abdomen much greater than weight of tail, which is supposed to act as a counter-balance.  Is the dinosaur industry a case of science trying to meet public desires or expectations?  The movie Jurassic Park is an example of showing dinosaurs much larger than any current displays in museums.  After the movie came out, it is interesting to note that many articles were written asking ‘Is this possible?’ I can recall a report of dinosaur DNA being discovered preserved in amber, which later turned out to be false.”  -David Wozney, “Dinosaurs: Science or Science Fiction”

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“Overall, several millions of dollars have been spent promoting the existence of dinosaurs through movies, TV, magazines and comics.  The world of movies and paleontology are like Siamese twins.  People’s view on the existence of dinosaurs is based not on firm evidence, but on Hollywood fixated artistic impressions.  Documentaries colorfully illustrate each dinosaur’s characteristics, like colors, weight and muscle mass, but Don Lessem (advisor for Jurassic Park) admits that this is pure guesswork - consider for instance the question of how much these dinosaurs weigh.  Don Lessem says, ‘Scientists don’t know how much dinosaurs weighed!’”  -Robbin Koefoed, “The Dinosaurs Never Existed”

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Dinosaurs are presented to the public with colorful artistic reconstructions, drawings, models, mannequins, gigantic skeletons in museums, cartoons and movies showing these beasts in explicit detail, but the fact is from the assigning and arrangement of bones in each species, to the impossible to discern soft tissue, skin, eyes, noses, color, hairyness, texture etc., just like the many supposed Ape-Man species, all dinosaur reconstructions are 100% fictional fabrications created by invested and inventive evolutionists.  They purposely present dinosaurs to children in the media to spark and bias their young imaginations towards their machinations.  Cartoons like “Ice Age” and “The Land Before Time,” movies like “Jurassic Park” and “Dinosaur Island,” coloring books, dolls, plastic toys, elementary school textbooks, and huge displays in children’s museums certainly have an effect on budding young minds.

National Geographic and the Ice Age movies were produced by Mason Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. and 20th Century Fox.  The Masonic production company Universal Studios created Jurassic Park and The Land Before Time.  They are owned by Comcast, whose main shareholders are Masons JP Morgan and the Rothschilds.  Discovery Channel which features many dinosaur documentaries is also financially advised by N M Rothschild and Sons Limited.

Former Paleontology student Michael Forsell claimed on a radio interview with leading paleontologist Jack Horner, that he was “a total fraud, fabricating evidence and perpetuating the myth of dinosaurs.”  He continued on saying, “I started my career in the field of paleontology, only to leave my studies once I realized the whole thing was a sham.  It’s nonsense, most of the so-called skeletons in museums are actually plaster casts.  They even do it openly on documentaries now, preserving the bones my ass!  I struggled as a student, mainly because I could not tell the difference between a fossilized egg and an ordinary rock, and of course there is no difference.  I was treated like a leper when I refused to buy into their propaganda, and promptly left the course.  Dinosaurs never existed, the whole shebang is a freak show, they just grab a couple of old bones and form them into their latest Frankenstein’s monster-like exhibit.  If dinosaurs existed they would be mentioned in the Bible.  We are all being fooled and it’s wrong, but together we can stop it.”

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Many claim that since dinosaur fossils have been radiometrically dated to be tens of millions of years old that their authenticity is thus proven.  The fact is, however, that the methods used to date dinosaur fossils involve not measuring the actual fossils, but the rocks near where they are found.  Most fossils are found near the surface of the earth, and if a modern-day animal were to die in the area, paleontologists would be likely to date them the same age!  Dr. Margaret Helder in her book “Completing the Picture, A Handbook on Museums and Interpretive Centers Dealing with Fossils,” she writes, “Scientists used to be very impressed with the potential of radiometric for coming up with absolutely reliable ages of some kinds of rocks.  They do not feel that way anymore.  Having had to deal with numerous calculated dates which are too young or too old compared with what they expected, scientists now admit that the process has many more uncertainties than they ever would have supposed in the early years.  The public knows almost nothing about uncertainties in the dating of rocks.  The impression that most people have received is that many rocks on earth are extremely old and that the technology exists to make accurate measurements of the ages.  Scientists have become more and more aware however that the measurements which the machines make, may tell us nothing about the actual age of the rock.”

One of the main reasons that evolutionists “needed” the existence of dinosaurs was to answer the complicated problems present in the theory of evolution including: sea-dwelling animals evolving into land-dwellers; reptiles evolving wings, feathers, flying and becoming birds; as well as other reptiles evolving warm-blood, live births, breasts and becoming mammals.  Through their imaginary multi-million-year timeline and a variety of supposed transitional dinosaur forms, the paleontological establishment has been promoting various sea-dinosaur, reptile/birds and reptile/mammals to bridge these gaps.  Many professionals and experts in the field have disputed such findings as often as they have been presented, however.  Dr. Storrs Olson, a Smithsonian Institute Scientist, wrote, “The idea of feathered dinosaurs and the theropod origin of birds is being actively promulgated by a cadre of zealous scientists acting in concert with certain editors at Nature and National Geographic who themselves have become outspoken and highly biased proselytizers of the faith.  Truth and careful scientific weighing of evidence have been among the first casualties in their program, which is now fast becoming one of the grander scientific hoaxes or our age.”

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No authentic feathers have ever been found with dinosaur fossils, though a few exposed hoaxes certainly attempted to fake it.  Dr. Olson called the adding of feathers to their findings “hype, wishful thinking, propaganda, nonsense fantasia, and a hoax.”  In the 1990s many fossils with feathers were supposedly discovered in China (suspiciously close to the Zigong Dino Ocean Art Company), but when examined Dr. Timothy Rowe found the so-called “Confuciusornis” was an elaborate hoax.  He also found the “Archeoraptor” supposedly discovered in the 90s was composed of bones from 5 different animals!  When Dr. Rowe presented his findings to National Geographic the head scientist reportedly remarked “well all of these have been fiddled with!”  National Geographic then proceeded with their news conferences and media stories about the Archeoraptor fossils being genuine and having found the missing link in evolution.

“In 1999, National Geographic magazine was busted when they presented, in a colorful and fancily presented article, the missing link.  An Archeoraptor dinosaur, which was supposed to support the basic tenet of evolutionary theory, that dinosaurs had slowly developed over millions of years.  Their proof consisted of a fossil, where carefully arranged bone imprints gave the impression of a creature half dinosaur and half bird.  The scam was discovered during a CT scan which uncovered unnatural bone links.  National Geographic magazine was later forced to admit, when pressured, that the fossil was man-made!”  -Robbin Koefoed, “The Dinosaurs Never Existed”

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Paleontologists claim that “Archaeopteryx” is another transitional form of bird evolved from dinosaurs, but this theory falls on its face against overwhelming evidence to the contrary.  Other species like Confuciusornis, Liaoningornis, and Eoalulavis have all been found to be contemporary with the Archaeopteryx and are indistinguishable from present-day birds.  Alan Feduccia from University of North Carolina, one of the most famous ornithologists in the world stated, “I’ve studied bird skulls for 25 years and I don’t see any similarities whatsoever.  I just don’t see it.  The theropod origins of birds, in my opinion, will be the greatest embarrassment of paleontology of the 20th century.”  Larry Martin from the University of Kansas, a paleo-ornithologist says, “to tell you the truth, if I had to support the dinosaur origin of birds with those characters, I’d be embarrassed every time I had to get up and talk about it.”

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Even if dinosaurs did evolve into birds to fill their evolution gap, it does not explain how something like the common housefly could have evolved.  Flies flap their wings simultaneously 500 times per second, even the slightest dissonance in vibration would cause them to lose balance and fall, but this never happens.  How could they “evolve” such an amazing and specialized ability?  Why were dinosaurs never discovered before the evolutionist renaissance in the mid-19th century?  Why do paleontologists think they can reconstruct an entire species of ancient animal from a few teeth?  Why have so many dinosaur “discoveries” turned out to be hoaxes?  Why are all “authentic dinosaur fossils” kept under tight lock and key away from any independent analysis?  Why has erosion and weathering not destroyed all these supposed prints and fossils that are allegedly millions of years old?  If dinosaurs were supposedly wiped out by a meteor impact or other such global catastrophe, why is it that all the other various animal species that exist today were not similarly wiped out?  There are many more questions which need to be answered before anyone in their right-mind should consider the existence of dinosaurs anything but a convenient evolutionist myth.

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“The paleontological establishment can control which hypotheses will be constructed through textbooks and the curriculum.  In this way, students are brainwashed into a pseudo-reality controlled by the text material and the teacher’s authority.  A short practical example; a random dental bone is found at an excavation site and from this dental bone, the rest of the skeleton is guessed at.  We are not kidding about this.  The entire dinosaurian field of the paleontological program is a sham.”  -Robbin Koefoed, “The Dinosaurs Never Existed”

“During the nineteenth century a new world view of evolution was being pursued by then influential people such as Darwin and Marx. During this era of thought the first dinosaur discoveries were made. Were these discoveries ‘made’ to try to make up for inadequacies in the fossil record for the theory of evolution? The following issues raise red flags as to the integrity of the dinosaur industry and cast doubts as to whether dinosaurs ever existed: (1) dinosaur discoveries having occurred only within the last two centuries and in huge unusual concentrated quantities going against the laws of nature and probability; (2) dinosaur discoverers typically and generally not being disinterested parties without a vested interest; (3) the nature of public display preparation, calling into question the integrity and source of fossils, and allowing for the possibility of tampering and bone substitution, and the possibility of fraudulent activities on a systemic basis; (4) existing artistic drawings and public exhibits showing off-balance and awkward postures that basic physics would rule out as being possible; (5) very low odds of all these dinosaur bones being fossilized but relatively few bones of other animals; (6) implications of dinosaur discoveries to the theory of evolution and the belief that man was created in God's image, suggesting possible hidden and subtle political or religious agendas served on a naive and unsuspecting public; and, (7) a lack of funding for organizations and people questioning or being skeptical of each and every discovery and public display.  The possibility exists that living dinosaurs never existed.  The dinosaur industry should be investigated and questions need to be asked.  I am unaware of any evidence or reason for absolutely believing dinosaurs ever were alive on earth.  The possibility exists that the concept of prehistoric living dinosaurs has been a fabrication of nineteenth and twentieth century people possibly pursuing an evolutionary and anti-Bible, anti-Christian agenda.  Questioning what is being told instead is a better choice rather than blindly believing the dinosaur story.  ‘O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called.’ (1 Timothy 6:20).  The choice between believing the word of man, the evolutionists, or the word of God, the Bible, is a matter of faith.”  -David Wozney, “Dinosaurs: Science or Science Fiction”

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Dinosaurs Never Existed! Dinosaur Fossils Are A Hoax

This article will discuss the possibility that there may have been an ongoing effort since the earliest dinosaur "discoveries" to plant, mix and match bones of various animals, such as crocodiles, alligators, iguanas, giraffes, elephants, cattle, kangaroos, ostriches, emus, dolphins, whales, rhinoceroses, etc. to construct and create a new man-made concept prehistoric animal called the dinosaur.

Where bones from existing animals are not satisfactory for deception purposes, plaster substitutes may be manufactured and used. Some material similar or superior to plasticine clay or plaster of Paris would be suitable. Molds may also be employed. A 144-page book titled "Make Your Own Dinosaur Out of Chicken Bones" provides step-by-step instructions complete with detailed drawings and diagrams.

Early Dinosaur Discoveries in North America provides revealing information about the first discoveries:

"The class Dinosauria was originally defined by Sir Richard Owen in 1842, in a two hour speech that reportedly held the audience captivated. The original dinosaurs of this new group were Megalosaurus, Iguanodon and Hylaeosaurus. However, each of these animals was known only from fragmentary specimens. It wasn't until the discoveries of dinosaurs in North America in the mid-19th century that people began to get a clearer picture of what dinosaurs looked like."

"It is generally accepted that the first discovery of dinosaur remains in North America was made in 1854 by Ferdinand Vandiveer Hayden during his exploration of the upper Missouri River."

"Near the confluence of the Judith and Missouri Rivers (shown above) Hayden's party recovered a small collection of isolated teeth which were later described by the Philadelphia paleontologist Joseph Leidy in 1856, in the Proceedings of the Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia."

So, dinosaurs were described in 1842 before the discoveries in 1854 that were required to give a clear picture of what dinosaurs looked like! Were discoveries made or constructed to fit the descriptions?

"Dinosaur skeletons were found for the first time in abundance in the Garden Park area of Colorado and at Como Bluff, Wyoming, in the late 1870s. These specimens initiated the First Great Dinosaur Rush in North America, driven largely by the efforts of a Philadelphia paleontologist, Edward Drinker Cope (on the left), and Othniel Marsh (on the right), a paleontologist from Yale University."

"These two men started as friends but became bitter rivals in a feud of legendary proportions. The stories surrounding these two include tales of armed field parties, spies, and intercepting shipments of fossils intended for the other."

Why were fossils being shipped to the discoverers and from whom?

Wayne Grady explains in his book The Dinosaur Project: "From Cope, Sternberg had learned cutthroat bone hunting. Cope and his arch rival, Othniel Charles Marsh, professor of paleontology at Yale University, had been engaged in what have been called 'the bone wars' throughout the 1870s and 1880s. It was a fierce scientific rivalry that entailed some of the most underhanded shenanigans in the history of science, but it also amassed stupendous collections of fossils."

"The Second Great Dinosaur Rush took place in the badlands of the Red Deer River in southern Alberta. Dinosaur remains had been known from this region as early as 1884 but it wasn't until 1910 that this region became an active collecting area. It was here that the second great collecting rivalry took place between Barnum Brown of the American Museum of Natural History in New York and C. H. Sternberg of the Geological Survey of Canada."

Why were there no discoveries by native Americans in all the years previous when they roamed the American continents? There is no belief of dinosaurs in the native American religion or tradition.

For that matter, why were there no discoveries prior to the nineteenth century in any part of the world? According to the World Book Encyclopedia, "before the 1800's, no one ever knew that dinosaurs ever existed". "During the late 1800's and early 1900's, large deposits of dinosaur remains were discovered in western North America, Europe, Asia, and Africa." "Dinosaur deposits also lie in Belgium, Mongolia, Tanzania, West Germany, and many other parts of the world."

Why has man suddenly made all these discoveries? Belgium, Mongolia, Tanzania, West Germany (and the Americas as well) were inhabited and very well explored for thousands of years and there were no discoveries until the nineteenth century. Why?

At Dinosauria: Fossil Record we learn that "The late 1800s were the 'golden age' of dinosaur paleontology, when many animals that you might be familiar with were discovered and named. Today we seem to be in another 'dinosaur renaissance', with new information accumulating rapidly".

Discoveries and excavations seem not to be made by disinterested people, such as farmers, ranchers, hikers, outdoor recreationists, building construction industry basement excavators, pipeline trench diggers, and mining industry personnel but rather by people with vested interests, such as paleontologists, scientists, university professors, and museum organization personnel who were intentionally looking for dinosaur bones or who have studied dinosaurs previously. The finds are often made during special dinosaur-bone hunting trips and expeditions by these people to far-away regions already inhabited and explored. This seems highly implausible. In some cases of a discovery of dinosaur bones by a disinterested person, it was suggested to them by some "professional" in the field to look or dig in a certain area. Also very interesting to note are special areas set aside and designated as dinosaur parks for which amateur dinosaur hunters are required to first obtain a dinosaur hunting license.

Also, a multitude of bones and dinosaurs are strangely found in the same place, suggesting possible planting of bones. The following three paragraphs are from The Seizure of Sue the T. rex.

"The Larsons are still working this find, which they called the Ruth Mason Quarry. The find contained the remains of at least two thousand beasts. There is only speculation as to the reason so many bones were in one place. The river system could have transported the bones a few at a time to a sandy coast at the edge of a receding Cretaceous sea. Or a great storm could have trapped and drowned a herd on a spit of land. A preponderance of the fossils were of Emontosaurus annectens a duckbilled dinosaur which migrated in flocks. Various carnivores teeth, including that of T. rex, were also found at the site, which could simply mean that these beasts were scavenging the remains. 'We're only guessing', said Pete."

"In July, 1990, Maurice Williams, who had a ranch nearby, came by the quarry. He was fascinated by work, and offered to let the paleontologists search for fossils on his land. Pete told him he appreciated the offer and would do so at the earliest opportunity. On the morning of August 12, the team suffered a flat tire. Their spare was low and the pump was broken. Most of the crew decided to take the tires to Faith in another vehicle for repair. Susan Hendrickson, a Seattle archaeologist and amateur paleontologist who was working with BHIGR that summer, decided to take a hike through Williams' land instead."

"She returned to the quarry several hours later finding the team back at work with three pieces of vertebrae. Pete thought immediately, Tyrannosaurus. The team saddled up and drove to the site she'd discovered, a 60-foot sandstone cliff jutting out of the prairie. At about eye level, a huge femur (thigh bone) protruded, along with several other bones. Pete immediately sought out Williams, who said, I've ridden by that place a hunnerd times. Never saw a thing."

It is unusually coincidental that a "commercial fossil collecting firm" would be the organization to make the dinosaur find. Why was rancher Williams unable to find "Sue" after all his years of ranching? Don't you find this unusual? The article T-Rex bones on sale for a cool $12 million indicates that the business of being a "commercial fossil collecting firm" is potentially very lucrative!

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Amazing links and information! Thank you!
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Post by rare on Sep 9, 2015 at 11:17pm

Thanks Eric et al. I only saw this thread today and I'm very grateful. It was actually the dino fraud (my preference) that brought me to the FE. When I took my children out of the system to home educate it was trying to follow the curriculum that brought me to discover all these ropes unravelling like tissue paper.

I began to realise that leaving my children in the system was just programming them (as the teacher's are programmed without their fault) to be pumped out and never question. The dino thing came up very early, then evolution, then that the earth was not moving, then that it was not a sphere, and here I am. And I was trying to follow! But it fell apart.

Science over the course of the last century has lost the notion of falsifiability and accepts axioms as fact without proof and without subjecting to empirical and inquiring observable reality. Philosophy and science should be hand in hand as they once were. Karl Popper was the last of them. His views on tolerance are valid even more today as I watch a mass immigration that I didn't vote for phase in a new Europe.

We have to take a deep breath before we talk on the dino fraud, perhaps even more than the FE, because it's an apple cart that even though we can turn it over and show that it's only a top layer of apples supported by straw it's a damn big apple cart. Thanks for this. I'll get my sons to read. And please read about Popper. Peace.

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Post by lizardking Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:53 pm

Post by csp on Sep 10, 2015 at 1:24am

Great write up Eric, love it!

Also want to pop this here, it was in the media a few years ago:



At around 2 minutes 35 seconds, you get:

a) relatively small compared to sue the tyrannosaurus rex on display in Chicago
b) significantly smaller (note significantly, not just smaller)
c) significantly older (note significantly, not just older)
d) first appearance of tyrannosaurus rex, geologically oldest on record

Here's a picture of Sue in Chicago:

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So in other words, the oldest t-rex they have found, is significantly smaller than the above and has live tissue within it's bones. I've read better fictional stories from 5 year olds.
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Post by ricaius on Sep 10, 2015 at 2:57pm

Speaking of fossils, look what has come out today:

This Face Changes the Human Story. But How?

A trove of bones hidden deep within a South African cave represents a new species of human ancestor, scientists announced Thursday in the journal eLife. Homo naledi, as they call it, appears very primitive in some respects—it had a tiny brain, for instance, and apelike shoulders for climbing. But in other ways it looks remarkably like modern humans. When did it live? Where does it fit in the human family tree? And how did its bones get into the deepest hidden chamber of the cave—could such a primitive creature have been disposing of its dead intentionally? This is the story of one of the greatest fossil discoveries of the past half century, and of what it might mean for our understanding of human evolution.

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Cross-section of the cave...

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"Mixed soil sediments in the cave where H. naledi was found make it difficult to date the bones. High-tech dating methods could provide an age. Three possibilities are considered here—any of which would throw a curve into current thinking on human evolution."

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Homo naledi, a new species of human, discovered in a cave in South Africa

My guess is this will be the infamous "missing link of human evolution" :-X
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Post by seeker on Sep 11, 2015 at 7:53pm

Totally confirming Eric's comment in the snippet of the recent IFERS audio hangout posted on Eric's YouTube page, I ran across a ridiculous article today, while searching for something else.

Eric said that sometimes they identify a whole supposed creature by one tooth.

This article from 2006 is on ScienceDaily's website, purporting to be "your source for the latest research news."

The headline makes it sound amazing! "The world's deepest dinosaur finding -- 2256 metres below the seabed".

"Norway's first dinosaur fossil is a Plateosaurus, a species that could be up to nine metres long and weigh up to four tons. It lived in Europe and on Greenland 210 to 195 million years ago, at the end of the Triassic Period." [accompanied by cartoon drawing]

How on earth did they manage to excavate such a huge beast's skeleton so far under the seabed? Surely this was an undertaking of heroic proportions.

Not exactly:

"The fossil is in fact just a crushed knucklebone in a drilling core -- a long cylinder of rock drilled out from an exploration well at the Snorre offshore field."

Ah, right. This establishment website is telling us that scientists extrapolated a four ton beast from one crushed knucklebone.

Who did they expect to believe this??
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Post by lizardking Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:09 pm

Post by rare on Sep 16, 2015 at 5:41pm

Is it just me or does it seem that every generation gets its own 'missing link'? About every twenty years or so a new one crops up. I'm 45 and I think I'm on my third by now. It's almost like once a large proportion of people reach an age when they might start to question and start thinking again a new hominid pops up to keep them in their place. No, that can't be it. It just takes decades to find them. And never, not once, is it the same researchers or groups that find them. Almost like you need a new "club" each time.
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Post by lizardking Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:11 pm

Post by thinkforyourself on Sep 16, 2015 at 8:45pm

Sep 16, 2015 at 5:41pm rare said:
Is it just me or does it seem that every generation gets its own 'missing link'? About every twenty years or so a new one crops up. I'm 45 and I think I'm on my third by now. It's almost like once a large proportion of people reach an age when they might start to question and start thinking again a new hominid pops up to keep them in their place. No, that can't be it. It just takes decades to find them. And never, not once, is it the same researchers or groups that find them. Almost like you need a new "club" each time.

I completely agree; the evolutionist Zionist brainwashers have to ram a new retarded looking man-ape down our throats every generation in their attempts to convince us that we magically evolved into the immensely complex soulful beings that we are. You would have to be a deluded shit eating man-ape to actually believe that rubbish.
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Post by lizardking Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:13 pm

Post by rare on Sep 16, 2015 at 9:09pm

Sep 16, 2015 at 8:45pm thinkforyourself said:

I completely agree; the evolutionist Zionist brainwashers have to ram a new retarded looking man-ape down our throats every generation in their attempts to convince us that we magically evolved into the immensely complex soulful beings that we are. You would have to be a deluded shit eating man-ape to actually believe that rubbish.

Our oral and written/graphic history used to declare us wrought from giants and gods for thousands of years. In two hundred we've been downgraded to arse-shufflers. De-evolution became a thing somehow.
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Study: Velociraptor Was a ‘Fluffy, Feathered Poodle From Hell’

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A new dinosaur discovery gives us new insight into an incredible moment in evolution

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Post by lizardking Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:50 pm

Posted by icedrink58 on 09/22/2015
Question: How do you best cement a hoax in the minds of the sheeple forever?
Answer: Let Steven Spielberg make a movie about it.

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Posted by lizardking on 09/30/2015

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'The carcass of the world’s most well-preserved baby mammoth named Lyuba, whose carcass is 42,000 years old.'

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'Four million year old skull of Thylacosmilus atrox, a saber-toothed marsupial meat eater from South America. Picture taken at the American Museum of Natural History.'

Seeing as woolly mammoths and saber-tooth tigers rely on the false theory of evolution, it seems that they cannot exist, and looking through the supposed 'evidence' has only confirmed this. The 'recovered' woolly mammoths look like dead raisin elephants rolled in glue and beaten with an old blanket, and the saber skulls look like something from The Hills Have Eyes set mixed with a bit of war-hammer paint and papier-mâché work.
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Post by lizardking Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:54 pm

Posted by richlion on 09/30/2015

Why Some People Will Never Believe



I will tie this into the topic of dinosaurs but I want to preface it with another topic to illustrate a point...

What if I was to say that a person who became known for a certain belief, and in his education he spent time and money to do so. That this person also has a business whereby it's based – at least in part – on the belief vaccines. Now, one day he was to learn that what he had been telling others was not the truth, would he change? If you were in this situation, would you change?

Say this profession is in the medical field, your education cost $50,000, you are now making $100,000 a year, your friends and family know of all the work you do. Finally, your own family depends on the income you make as a doctor. But one day you found, at least in part, that what your practice is based on is nothing but lies. The question is, if this person was you, would you change? Would the average person change?

Keep in mind that there has been many years invested in your education, 10s of thousands of dollars for this education. You built up your reputation and you built up your business. Now, you are making $100,000 a year and with that, you and your family are used to a certain lifestyle. In fact, your income in necessary to pay all the bills including the mortgage to the bank. Would you change your belief? Or would you deny what you've been told – even with overwhelming evidence? 

Because you know what is riding on your decision would you steadfastly hold on to what you know is a lie in order to continue making the money? And in order to do this, would you tell yourself and the person who is presenting the new information to you that it's all a lie and you don't want to hear any more? (You do this so you can consciously not have to deal with this new revelation.)

Or, would you “let the cards fall where they may” and change your business practice in order to fit your beliefs? Would you be willing to look into another profession so you, in good conscious not practice what has been proven to you to be wrong (e.g. that vaccines are good for you)?

Few people will change in spite of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. They know what is at stake, so they will chose to be a living, walking hypocrite. In this way, they can continue making the money they are. They will not have to disrupt their family which could result in a divorce. They will not have to worry colleagues at work – some of which are personal friends. Most people will lie to you and to themselves in order to take the “easy road out.” 

The unfortunate fact of life is, that most people – at some point in their life – will do just that; they will ignore the truth in order to continue their lifestyle. This, we have seen when we present truths on various topics to people we know. Some of these topics include: the medical profession, certain events in history, creation, the flat earth truth, etc.

Some of this truth has to do with “political correctness.” That, if they change, they will not be “politically correct,” and depending on what it is, labels will be attached to that person, such as: terrorist, extremist, anti-Semitic and other “terrible” names. Would you be willing to suffer this for the sake of TRUTH? Many people say one thing and wind up doing the opposite once they are faced with a situation like that.

What am I getting at? 

In this article, I would like to focus on dinosaurs. Now, admittedly, this doesn't affect most people one way or the other. It doesn't effect their income if they do believe in dinosaurs or if they don't.
People are coming to believe that the dinosaurs never existed (listen to the above video for an introduction). Now, there are some good people out there who teach creationism and with it they teach the dinosaurs existed with mankind. Creationists seemed to incorporate what Evolutionists say about dinosaurs into their talk.

When the topic of the flat earth was brought up with Dr. Kent Hovind he denied this information. You can be sure that he would do the same about dinosaurs never existed. So, who is Kent Hovind? He is probably the most well-known person who teaches creationism. (There areYouTube video out there of his many talks.)

Anyhow, I believe that Kent would be like the doctor who does not believe that something about 
their profession is wrong (such as vaccines, radiation treatment, etc., etc.). Why? Because he sells videos that talks about dinosaurs, he has a dinosaur museum, and he is known as Dr. Dino. This is who he is, this is part of his identity. Of course, a good part of his income comes from guests and tourists visiting his museum in Pensacola, Florida. (Although I think that the dirty IRS confiscated it when when went to prison, but you get my point.)

Conclusion 

The point I want to make is that some people will never come to the truth, especially if their income is related to it. Thus, there are a number of Creationists who all push the dinosaur theory that will not listen. Well, if they look in their Bibles, they'll read words to the effect, “The meek shall inherit the earth.” What the word “meek” means is “TEACHABLE.” And some people aren't, at least they are not in other areas of life. However, we should continue to tell the truth about the flat earth, dinosaurs and other topics that Eric has in the Conspiracy Thread and do what we can.
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David "Eugenics pioneer Bastard" Attenborough has recently been in a BBC documentary called 'Attenborough and the Giant Dinosaur' which I had the misfortune of watching the end of whilst round at a friends house. Today I downloaded this work of fiction just to see/hear their claims.

It starts with the romantic story of a lone Patagonian farmer looking for a lost sheep and chances upon the largest bone ever found just sticking out of the ground. Apparently this bone has been buried for around 100 million years under a few inches of dirt! A team is assembled and cameras are all over it. But you only see them digging and chipping at rock. Not once do you see a bone being uncovered for the first time. You only see them after they have been completely excavated/put in place. By digging a few feet down they manage to find 200 bones belonging to a Totalbullshitasaur (Sorry, Titanosaur).

Then the show ends with them assembling and welding together the 120ft long dinosaur in a warehouse. How they plan to get it out of there and on display is a total mystery to me. But too many people just eat this crap up.

Here's the trailer:

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A new movie with a heavy dose of the Oil and Dinosaur collusion.

Those Dinosaurs sure are angry!

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:21 am

Would love to see Eric do a video of this great article he's written and compiled. This crux needs to be torpedoed asap. I even tried convincing an old friend who's since become a Christian pastor because he use to make a fool of evolution; but now he's too far gone to rock the boat. The Bible does mention giants, behemoths and leviathans. But Dinosaurs were clearly made up to support the theory of evolution.

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Post by csp Thu May 05, 2016 4:32 am

Great work Eric!!!
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Post by damnice Sat May 07, 2016 4:46 am

More fake dinosaurs discovered in China, the country with the most dinosaur finding credibility lol. Look at how fake this thing looks, they just make up weird shit, the weirder the more believable? http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nailed-it-scientists-describe-weird-ancient-hammerhead-reptile/ar-BBsIYzo?li=BBnb7Kz
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Post by damnice Thu May 19, 2016 3:54 am

It's funny how it seems only people looking for dinosaur bones ever seem to find them.

Associated Press wrote:It's scientific name is Spiclypeus shipporum (spi-CLIP-ee-us ship-OR-um) but it's been nicknamed "Judith," after the Judith River rock formation where it was found in 2005 by retired nuclear physicist Bill Shipp.

Canadian Museum of Nature paleontologist Jordan Mallon says Judith is closely-related to the well-known Triceratops. Both had horned faces and elaborate head frills, although Judith's horns stick out sideway instead of over the eyes.

Like Triceratops, Judith was a plant-eater, approximately 15-feet long and weighing up to four tons, Mallon said.

Shipp told The Associated Press that he stumbled across what turned out to be Judith's femur bone in 2005.

He had hired an amateur paleontologist to give him an introduction to fossil hunting on a ranch Shipp owned near the Upper Missouri River Breaks National Monument. As Shipp worked his way around an eroded rocky outcropping on the property, he saw a piece of bone sticking several inches out of the ground.

"I found it accidentally on purpose," Shipp said. "I was actually looking for dinosaur bones, but with no expectation of actually finding any."

So he found it "accidentally on purpose". Freudian slip for sure.
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damnice wrote:So he found it "accidentally on purpose". Freudian slip for sure.

Yes, absolute mockery...
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http://thetechreader.com/top-ten/top-ten-scientific-flaws-in-the-theory-of-prehistoric-dinosaurs/

First of all, I’m not going to say that dinosaurs did not exist. However, I’m also not going to perpetuate that dinosaurs did exist. I am merely going to point out that there are more scientific anomalies in the theory of dinosaurs than there are evidence that dinosaurs did exist.

In fact, one of the biggest reasons to doubt the theory is that in fact there is no scientific evidence. “But wait”, you say, “what about the museums, all the bones uncovered by archaeologists, and carbon dating”? I will get to that in the following top ten list.

10 An extinction-level event of this magnitude would have destroyed all life on Earth, not just the dinosaurs; this would be evident archaeologically
An extinction-level event of this magnitude would have destroyed all life on Earth, not just the dinosaurs; this would be evident archaeologically
The Flaws: Bear with me for a moment and assume for a second that evolution is true and that dinosaurs once roamed the Earth. Now consider that the reason we don't see any is because at one point the Earth was hit by a giant asteroid that obliterated the Earth and caused all dinosaurs to become extinct simultaneously. There are several problems with such a theory.

Firstly, for an event of this magnitude to have occurred to wipe out all the dinosaurs (except deep-sea dinosaurs, which I will get to later), it would have to wipe out all the rest of life, too. There are major problems with this.

1) If evolution were to be true and this event occurred, then it would mean that evolution would have to have started over from scratch from that point. This throws a big wrench into evolutionary theory. It would have been better if you were trying to support evolution to not even try to support the idea of dinosaurs.

2) Not to mention that all humans would also have been wiped out, so let's not even get into the red herring fallacies that try to argue how dinosaurs and humans existed simultaneously.

3) If such an event were to occur, it would mean that there would be archaeological evidence of a period of time, perhaps many millions of years, in which no life existed on Earth except maybe some surviving cave dwellers and deep sea creatures. However, no such archaeological evidence exists.

Secondly, with the possibility of evolution occurring being so astronomically high that the possibility is not only 0 but far in the negative (not even going to get into this in this post), then the possibility that evolution could start life over, in the exact same way, from the exact same biological principles, a second time is just so astronomically absurd it's just not even funny anymore.

We're talking literally there are not enough numbers in the universe, times itself, to the power of itself, times infinity, to support how many zeroes would be required on the end of "one in x" chance of happening. In fact, the English language (or any language) does not even have a conception, not to mention a word, to describe how astronomically slim utterly ridiculous the chances of this occurring are. In other words, it suffices to say that this is simply impossible to have occurred.

9 There would not have been enough food or fresh water for plant-based animals this big to have lived
There would not have been enough food or fresh water for plant-based animals this big to have lived
The Flaws: Yes, elephants exist, and elephants are large. However, an elephant, which is a fraction of the size of a Brontosaurus, has to eat for 18 hours every day in order to survive. However, even in ancient times, there was still only 24 hours within each 24 hour period (basic logic).

Since an elephant can't survive without eating 18 hours per day every day, and a Brontosaurus was supposedly 5 to 10 times larger than an elephant, then a brontosaurus would have to eat for around 90 to 180 hours per day. Yes, you read that right, and it's not a typo. It is logically impossible to eat for 90 hours per 24 hour day.

Even if it scarfed down food much quicker, it still comes nowhere close to having enough time to sustain itself. If it did absolutely nothing but eat and sleep, it still wouldn't even come close. Even if it never slept but only ate, still it would not even come close. That means that it could never even reach full size. That would be impossible. It makes no sense for a creature which could never get larger than a baby to even exist in the first place.

However, this isn't even the real problem with the existence of giant plant-eating creatures. The real problem is that there wouldn't even be enough food for them to eat (not to mention enough fresh water to drink).

Take the example of the Australian rabbit. This tiny animal in relatively large numbers has wreaked havoc on the local environments, Take the following excerpt:

The rapid spread of the rabbit led to the destruction of large tracts of vegetation, leading to the extinction of many plant species. Loss of vegetation leads to soil erosion as the exposed soil is washed or blown away, removing valuable soil nutrients required for new plants to develop. This soil is typically deposited in waterways, causing siltation and destroying aquatic ecosystems (Rabbit Problems, n.d.).
Consider the effect of just these tiny creatures. Now consider the daily consumption of one single plant-eating dinosaur. At 13 tons, a Mamenchisaurus, similar to a Brontosaurus, would have to have eaten 1,150 pounds of vegetation per day. This is probably equivalent to about 10,000 rabbits, maybe more (that number is just an educated guess).

If a few thousand rabbits can destroy entire ecosystems, then consider what billions of rabbits would do. There would be nothing left, for anyone. All plants would go extinct. That's what would happen if these massive dinosaurs roamed the Earth. There would not be any plants left to eat. Most plant species would go extinct.

8 No one is allowed to question the Dinosaur Orthodoxy without extremely harsh criticism
No one is allowed to question the Dinosaur Orthodoxy without extremely harsh criticism
The Flaws: The perpetuation of Dinosaur theory, just like Evolutionary Theory and the Big Bang Theory, has become more of a religion, an orthodoxy, than a science. People are expected not to question it, no matter what, at the risk of losing their job, breaking their careers, losing friends, being shunned by family, and being ridiculed by anyone who refuses to think for themselves. If anyone attempts to present scientific evidence contrary to the popularly held view, it is immediately dismissed as "conspiracy theory" or a "crazy religionist".

This is a big red flag. Anytime anyone refuses to even consider a contrary view to the popularly-held beliefs, you should highly question that view having any validity whatsoever, even more than other views. Valid viewpoints take both sides of an argument with equal weight and accept any potential new information and test it without bias against an overarching hypothesis. However, it is usually the views that cannot be supported by evidence that choose to take more of an ad-hominem attack by questioning the person's character rather than the evidence presented.

Also remember that very, very few people, probably a total of mere thousands of people out of the entire world population, have ever done any real hands-on research into any of the scientific areas to promote evolution, dinosaurs, etc. As a result, you must understand that most people who accept evolution are only believing it by faith, because they have not done the research for themselves. Reading something in a textbook does not count as research.

If someone decides to write that men came from aliens (such as Scientology to some extent), you can't believe it just because everyone else does without researching for yourself. However, most people do not have the time, energy, money, or aptitude to do any real hands-on research for themselves, so they just believe what they read in their high school and college text books without questioning it. This is a serious issue; but not only that, you must accept that as a result, these people are believing in evolution by having faith (in textbooks), which is a religious belief, not a scientific belief.

However, keep in mind that despite the perception that most people believe in evolution and subsequent theories, that is untrue. In fact, most of the world is not atheistic; in fact as much as 80% to 90% of the world's population believes in some form of God.

The only reason it seems like more than 10% of the world believes in evolution is because evolutionists have a hold in the media and educational system. In fact, as much as 90% of professors and educational instructors do not actually believe in evolution, but for fear of their job and career they are forced to teach it. It's just that the 10% or less of people who hold an Atheistic view on the world tend to speak louder than everyone else.

7 Dinosaurs were too big to have existed with the confines of the laws of physics
Dinosaurs were too big to have existed with the confines of the laws of physics
The Flaws: The laws of physics and gravity prevents the existence of creatures as massive as dinosaurs. There have been many attempts to justify this, but the fact remains that without changing the laws of physics, it is not possible.

In fact, some even tried to change the laws of physics by suggesting that gravity was weaker in the prehistoric era. However, this notion is pseudoscience. Anyone who knows anything about physics can tell you that such a notion is pure fiction.

Due to the principles of gravity, mass, and the limitations of muscular anatomy in any life form, it would not be possible for any animal weighing more than 20,803 pounds to be able to lift its own weight (Holden, 1994). However, the Brontosaurus is supposed to weigh over 70,000 pounds, and other so-called sauropods are supposed to be many times larger than that.

Then there is the issue of neck size - a long necked animal of that size would not even be able to lift its neck. Additionally, their blood pressure would be way too high to be able to live. Their heart would literally explode. For reference, a giraffe has a long neck, and even at its relatively tiny size in comparison to sauropods, a giraffe is at essentially the peak of blood pressure that is possible to live, having a higher blood pressure than any other animal.

It almost makes you wonder if someone is sitting in an office someone with a sinister look on his face and tapping the tips of his fingers together like a mad scientist, thinking, "heh heh hehhh ... I wonder how many laws of physics I can break and still no one notices, heh heh hehhh ..."

Then there is the issue with the laws of physics relating to flight. The giant pterosaurs could not possibly have flown, because their wing span would have to be far, far larger in order to support their massive weight. It simply was not possible. Whoever invented the giant pterosaur clearly wasn't very familiar with the laws of physics and flight.

It may have had something to do with the fact that humans didn't fully understand the principles surrounding flight until the early 1900s**. When you are making up a mythological creature, it can be difficult to make it fit within the laws of physics when you don't even know the laws of physics yet.

** Note: The Wright Brothers first achieved flight in 1903; the purpose of this argument excludes earlier flying machines like hot air balloons as early as 1783 which used different physics to achieve flight.

6 Lack of perpetual fossil evidence - everyone should be finding these bones in the backyards
Lack of perpetual fossil evidence - everyone should be finding these bones in the backyards
The Flaws: If dinosaurs roamed the Earth and were everywhere, and these creatures were massive, gigantic beasts, then there should be overwhelming evidence everywhere we look. You would go gardening and find ten or twenty giant bones every time you tried to plant some seeds.

People would be building houses out of these bones because there was so many of them. Who needs bricks when you have fossils? Your kids would go play outside and occasionally come back with a petrified dinosaur bone. However, there has never once been an instance in which someone accidentally found a dinosaur bone.

5 Radiocarbon dating, also known as Carbon-14 Dating, cannot date back longer than 40,000 years
Radiocarbon dating, also known as Carbon-14 Dating, cannot date back longer than 40,000 years
The Flaws: Even evolutionary scientists accept that carbon dating is entirely ineffective in measuring time. Not only is it ineffective with relatively short periods of time, but the entire theory is based off a premise that essentially says that the maximum amount of years it can be used for is 40,000 years.

This means that using radiocarbon dating to say that dinosaurs existed 65 million years ago is like using a thermometer to measure the height of Mount Everest. The only people you will fool is the people who don't know what a thermometer is.

According to Luigi Cavalli-Sforza, an evolutionary geneticist from Stanford University, who wrote the book, "Genes, People, and Languages" which was published in 2000,

The most crucial dates in modern human evolution are unfortunately beyond the range of the radiocarbon method, which has a limit of about 40,000 years (Cavalli-Sforza, 2000, p. 61)

Additionally, evolutionist Richard Dawkins, author of the famous book, "The Blind Watchmaker", had this to say about radiocarbon dating:
Different kinds of radioactive decay-based geological stopwatches run at different rates. The radiocarbon stopwatch buzzes round at a great rate, so fast that, after some thousands of years, its spring is almost wound down and the watch is no longer reliable.

It is useful for dating organic material on the archaeological/historical timescale where we are dealing in hundreds or a few thousands of years, but it is no good for the evolutionary timescale where we are dealing in millions of years (Dawkins, 1986, p. 226).
So even the top evolutionary scientists in the world affirm that radiocarbon dating is impossible to use to determine the age or existence of dinosaurs.

4 Dinosaurs did not exist in mythology in any culture before the 1800s
Dinosaurs did not exist in mythology in any culture before the 1800s
The Flaws: For a set of creatures that are supposed to have been so pervasive, so massive, and so populous to have never been seen in any culture's mythology at any time in known history (not even cave paintings), defies logic if the creatures had in fact existed.

Instead, the mythology of dinosaurs did not spring up until around the 1800s. Since then, and especially since the 1900s when Charles Darwin's "Origin of the Species" (published in 1859) book became more popular, dinosaurs have become a pervasive part of society. Today, we see these prehistoric creatures in children's books, novels, movies, television, and every form of media.

However, before the 1800s, Dinosaurs were completely absent from mythology. We don't see it in Greek, Roman, or any other sort of mythology. Some historians claim that some ancient Chinese found a dinosaur fossil, but the evidence for this is merely anecdotal (in other words, there is no real evidence for this). You can't believe everything you read on Wikipedia. And that is beside the point, as I will explain below.

If, as they say, dinosaurs roamed the Earth long ago, giant, massive creatures that defied the imagination, dinosaurs would then become the focal point of all of historical mythology. Not anecdotal evidence of something that might or might not be a dinosaur, here and there.

After all, it has been proven in the last 100 years since dinosaurs were introduced to us that once people caught onto this idea it became wildly famous. However, if it were true, it would have been wildly famous tens of thousands of years ago too. But it wasn't. Not a single absolute reference can be found.

Absolute reference is the key factor. Not a reference that might be a large whale or elephant ("leviathan" and "behemoth" in the Bible). If such massive creatures existed, there wouldn't be one or two ambiguous references here and there. No, if it were true then you would hear very specifically about giant massive creatures with giant heads, ferocious teeth, and tiny arms (Tyrannosaurus Rex), gentle giant long-necked creatures who were many, many times bigger than even the largest known creatures such as elephants (Brontosaurus), and super-fast and intelligent creatures with 9 inch claws and teeth and pack-hunting mentalities (Velociraptor).

Remember, not ambiguous references one or two times that might be something else. There would have to be thousands, even millions of references that are very specific. For example, it's not like we think that references to a dragon might be references to say, a large bird. No, mythology is very clear about dragons being large, reptilian, flying, fire-breathing creatures; and dragons are extremely pervasive throughout mythology.

Don't you think that if dinosaurs existed, myth-writers such as Homer would have capitalized on this in the "Iliad and the Odyssey" and other famous mythological writings and great stories? No, instead you find many mythical creatures like Cyclops, mermaids, and talking horses. But no references to dinosaurs.

We see absolutely no specific references to dinosaurs in mythology. Not one, single absolute reference. If history has taught us anything, fantasy creatures, even fictional ones, capture the imagination and become pervasive throughout mythology. Leprechauns, trolls, even dragons are a few of the famous creatures. But no mythology even referencing any dinosaurs. Not a single one. Not at any time in history.

Not a single time in history before the 1800s was any dinosaur specifically mentioned; but if it were true that they really existed, then many, many dinosaurs would be referenced countless times. Thus, historical evidence strongly suggests that the existence of dinosaurs is highly improbable.

3 A full skeleton or a dinosaur has never been found - not even close to one
A full skeleton or a dinosaur has never been found - not even close to one
The Flaws: You go to a museum and you see dinosaur skeletons. At least, you think you do. You see, those dinosaurs are amalgams of various things ranging from chicken bones, to random bones, to straight plaster casts. Not even the teeth are real. Various bones have been found that have been claimed to be a part of a dinosaur.

However, no dinosaur skeleton has ever been found. The only few that have been, have long proved to be a hoax. As a result, the only way to make a dinosaur skeleton for a museum is to, quite literally make it. That is, they have to create what they think it might look like by filling in 99% of the bones with other things to make what they think the whole thing would look like.

However, it is most probable that the few bones that have been found belonged to other animals. Thus, what you see in a museum is nothing more than an artist's rendition of what they think those dinosaurs could look like if they existed. If they put in a skeleton of a dragon, you would probably believe that too, especially if they told you in your class science book that dragons existed and could even talk English.

2 There is more evidence for the presupposition of dinosaurs than the other way around
There is more evidence for the presupposition of dinosaurs than the other way around
The Flaws: Presupposition is a philosophical term which means that you create the evidence based on an assumed premise. In philosophy, any presupposed arguments are usually dismissed.

To be more clear, the idea of dinosaurs was first imagined, and then scientists attempted to search for evidence that they existed. However, this is not how science works. This is anti-science, or pseudo-science. The scientific method dictates that in order to assume a valid scientific notion, it must first be discovered, and only then create the theories based only on the scientific fact.

Instead, however, dinosaurs were first imagined, and then entire skeletons were designed by creative artists; and then after they had what they thought might exist, they went out and tried to find evidence that their theory existed. They would find a bone, and think, "well, this might be similar to what I imagined a dinosaur bone would look like", while holding a cow or whale bone.

It is like drawing a picture of an imaginary creature that you think might be able to exist and then trying to find the imaginary creature in real life. It's not going to happen unless you make it happen. That's exactly what happened with Dinosaur theory. Could dinosaurs exist? Maybe. But is it probable? Not based on science as we know it.

1 Even an extinction-level event would not have destroyed the dinosaurs who lived in the deep-ocean
Even an extinction-level event would not have destroyed the dinosaurs who lived in the deep-ocean
The Flaws: An extinction-level event, such as a giant comet crashing into Earth, or perhaps a disease that wiped out all the dinosaurs, would only have impacted the land dinosaurs and shallow-water dinosaurs, not the ones in the deep ocean. If such an event occurred as the reason for why dinosaurs "went extinct", it would not have applied to the deep ocean dinosaurs which would still be there today.

We would see these dinosaurs of all sizes - gigantic, mid-sized, and tiny - all the time through deep-water trawls, fishing nets, occasionally washing up on shore, the occasional scuba diver eaten and submarine destroyed, and we would even see photographic evidence taken by deep-water submersibles. However, none of this evidence is present which means that most certainly an extinction-level event could not be the reason we don't see any dinosaurs on Earth. The only plausible solution is that they could not have scientifically existed.

So, is the theory of Dinosaurs a hoax? Perhaps. Or is it true, that giant dinosaurs roamed the Earth in prehistoric days? Maybe. However, is it likely that these mega creatures called dinosaurs existed? Not based on the overwhelming scientific evidence.

The only thing that is certain is that it is impossible to know for sure, without time travel. However, should our children be taught theories as if they were fact? This we can most certainly say for a fact: absolutely not, no more than you would tell them that dragons, leprechauns, or trolls exist. In fact, based on historical evidence, it is more likely that dragons and trolls existed at some point than it is that dinosaurs ever did.
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