No Curvature on the Flat Earth
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
Great footage Rick. I wanted to know where you were filming from? I know you can see the Burlington Skyway from the Toronto shoreline on a clear day, and Burlington is 58km from Toronto.
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
Foreverlearning wrote:Great footage Rick. I wanted to know where you were filming from? I know you can see the Burlington Skyway from the Toronto shoreline on a clear day, and Burlington is 58km from Toronto.
This a video from Jenna Fredo
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmGZOUV9TP9Z_J1LdUIfYHQ
Taken from 30.84 Miles away at Fort Niagara, NY. The Rogers Center dome is only 282' high. Lake Ontario elevation is 243'.The base elevation of the Rogers Center is 267', making the total height of the Rogers Center above the lake 306' . My elevation was 6' above the lake. Expected curvature is 516.85' of drop
I live in Ontario and have been to Toronto many times. The Rogers Center, aka the Skydome is the white retractable roof clearly visible in her videos.
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
I have an idea, (My girlfriends idea actually,)
She wants an app for her ipad that shows the curvature one should EXPECT to see on a ball with a radius of 3,595 miles from any location or height.
She also wants to a see a video showing three points of view side by side.
1. the ipad app with expected curvature (mathematically correct for the supposed "ball'.
2. the same view from the same height and location with no distortion, a real life view.
3. just for fun, the same view again via fish eye lens.
I know nothing about writing software, but wouldn't that be great to have an app that SHOWS you, from a given location, the amount of curve one should Expect to see compared to what a person is actually seeing? I want that app....
Even the ball earthers would download that app.
I am wondering if it has already been written?
a valuable teaching tool that would be
She wants an app for her ipad that shows the curvature one should EXPECT to see on a ball with a radius of 3,595 miles from any location or height.
She also wants to a see a video showing three points of view side by side.
1. the ipad app with expected curvature (mathematically correct for the supposed "ball'.
2. the same view from the same height and location with no distortion, a real life view.
3. just for fun, the same view again via fish eye lens.
I know nothing about writing software, but wouldn't that be great to have an app that SHOWS you, from a given location, the amount of curve one should Expect to see compared to what a person is actually seeing? I want that app....
Even the ball earthers would download that app.
I am wondering if it has already been written?
a valuable teaching tool that would be
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
reluctantsparrow wrote: an app for her ipad that shows the curvature one should EXPECT to see on a ball with a radius of 3,595 miles from any location or height.
I am wondering if it has already been written?
a valuable teaching tool that would be
Check the following app to see if it fits (at least some of your) needs.
www.aye.earth
http://www.aye.earth/index.php/aye-earth/curve/curve-calculator
Note: This app uses the standard globe assumption of a spherical geometry of the Earth
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
Very useful link, thanks vortexpuppy, but not quite what my GF had in mind. She wants an app that superimposes what the alleged curve should look like in real time on the camera view from her Ipad or Iphone. The line of the curved horizon one should be seeing would be superimposed right over the real life view. The "expected curve' would also be superimposed at the correct "horizon level" based on Pythagoras math.....so....a person could pull out their camera on a plane for instance flying at 37,000 feet to take a pic and the "app" would automatically display both the alleged "curve" one SHOULD be seeing side to side as well as how far 'down" a person should have to tip ones head to see the pythagorean horizon (which in reality remains at eye level).
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
How's it going everyone, please remove this comment if it doesn't fit into the forum, so recently, I've been thinking, since the earth is unfathomably huge, the only true telling way in my mind to test the 'curve' is to gain unfathomable height, am I wrong? So basically a good thorough birds eye view? I've recently seen the video with Rob Skiba and others letting of those baloons, forget the actual proper name for it, I'm pretty sure they got to around 100,000 feet or soo?. And if you've seen the video, the view at that height is spectacular, but in all honesty only covers a very small portion of the earth, I'm wondering, if the earth were to curve, at what height estimated would you have to be to notice any promising signs of it? Personally My guess would be atleast 900,000 + feet right? Try not to laugh at this comment (lol) as I'm not the most educated with the math etc, looking for some well educated opinions/explanations - thanks.
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
THINGS TO LOOK FOR:
The presence or lack of hotspot on the surface of the Earth.
What happens to the horizon as it moves above and below the camera's center axis.
Is there any motion parallax between the horizon and the Sun
The presence or lack of hotspot on the surface of the Earth.
What happens to the horizon as it moves above and below the camera's center axis.
Is there any motion parallax between the horizon and the Sun
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
My friend (no honestly I do have a friend and it's not me) is a glober; and when I present the 8 inches times the square of the mile and Eric's examples plus others of all the stuff that should be below the curve from earth level... the only thing he could come up with was refraction. I gave the example that Eric cites which is out local church here which can be seen at around 40 miles and is around 300 ft so should be several hundred foot below the horizon. If the brainwashing means people will accept refraction of hundreds of feet what can you do. And he's a clever science guy...
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
qdoc wrote:My friend (no honestly I do have a friend and it's not me) is a glober; and when I present the 8 inches times the square of the mile and Eric's examples plus others of all the stuff that should be below the curve from earth level... the only thing he could come up with was refraction. I gave the example that Eric cites which is out local church here which can be seen at around 40 miles and is around 300 ft so should be several hundred foot below the horizon. If the brainwashing means people will accept refraction of hundreds of feet what can you do. And he's a clever science guy...
Welcome to IFERS qDoc... and Bravo for sharing the truth with your friend.
What has worked for many over decades of trying in other Truth areas is to use the erosion method... Drip... Drip... Drip... of solid proof based truth shared here and there with a friend in relaxed way at a comfortable intuitive time... and then in the fullness of time your friend will discover/realize the truth in his mind... in his way... and 'own' it himself.
Some people are ready... NOW... to see the flat earth evidence clearly due to past efforts at trying to find the truth in other areas... JFK, 911, Middle East Wars, Federal Reserve, Religion, IRS, CIA, False Flag Events and many many other areas... but most of us need the Drip... Drip... Drip... method.
Remember... It took most of us somewhere about 2-4 years to even learn to speak our language properly.
Think in terms of years of gentle sharing rather than using any fire and brimstone style over a short period of time.
Telling people the earth is flat even when showing them my favorite proof of Miles Squared Times 8 inches is still telling them they have been crazy misinformed fools for most of their life.
It doesn't go down to well with most of us to find out we have been told lies since we were barely able to walk...
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
Thanks Bro ;-)
Yes For Me It Started A Decade Ago
It Went 911 (Specifically Building 7)
Then Heavily Into Money System And Central Banking And Fiat Currency
False Flags And Realising Who's Pulling The Strings, Again Eric's Work On That Is Impressive
And Finally To Flat Earth
So Yeah For Me It Was A 10 Year Journey
Yes For Me It Started A Decade Ago
It Went 911 (Specifically Building 7)
Then Heavily Into Money System And Central Banking And Fiat Currency
False Flags And Realising Who's Pulling The Strings, Again Eric's Work On That Is Impressive
And Finally To Flat Earth
So Yeah For Me It Was A 10 Year Journey
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
I caught this article a few weeks back and could find no mention of curvature being taken into account.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4675520/World-s-longest-sea-bridge-finished-China.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4675520/World-s-longest-sea-bridge-finished-China.html
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Concorde flights ended due to fire risk?
Thinkforyourself wrote:Great footage, good job.Aphrodite wrote:Concorde was flying on 60000 feet and no curvature.
10:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBYIo_pS1yI
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjskCmWfOqs
3:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnFkJWkBGf8
Third video Captain on take off burning smell quite normal on Concorde!coming from the air conditioning! Were these not grounded for fire safety reasons?ie one caught fire?
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
My no curvature proof from NZ (Napier)
https://youtu.be/c1K-mBm1LRQ
https://youtu.be/c1K-mBm1LRQ
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Can someone help me make sense of calculating curvature?
I’m very aware that the common calculation for the earths curvature uses 8” per mile squared but this appears to be an approximation that accounts more for shorter distances as it actually creates a parabola.
Another website I found shows a few other ways to calculate it using the Pythagorean theorem and spherical trigonometry. (I’m not great at math but I’m wondering if there is a better formula perhaps if the inches per mile squared isn’t accurate as they say).
I’m 100% convinced of the flat earth but I saw a video suggesting that using inches per mile squared was supposedly not an accurate way to derive the curvature and, of course, he was using that fact to try and discredit flat earthers.
I guess the fact that countless experiments calculating no curvature whatsoever makes any curvature “calculation” irrelevant, though doesn’t it? Lol
Another website I found shows a few other ways to calculate it using the Pythagorean theorem and spherical trigonometry. (I’m not great at math but I’m wondering if there is a better formula perhaps if the inches per mile squared isn’t accurate as they say).
I’m 100% convinced of the flat earth but I saw a video suggesting that using inches per mile squared was supposedly not an accurate way to derive the curvature and, of course, he was using that fact to try and discredit flat earthers.
I guess the fact that countless experiments calculating no curvature whatsoever makes any curvature “calculation” irrelevant, though doesn’t it? Lol
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
The 8 inches per mile squared formula is a simple formula which if talking about distances over 300 miles begins to deviate and forms a parabola, that is correct. However, what these globe videos omit and don't bother acknowledging or accepting, is the fact that 8 inches per mile squared works perfectly in calculating accurate distances up to 300 miles away, which is plenty far for all practical measurements people are taking. Not to mention, these idiot globers act like flat Earthers are the ones who came up with this formula. This formula was created by globers, not flat Earthers, to describe their model. So when they nit-pick their own bullshit math and blame us, it just shows what spurious ground they're actually standing on to try and shift the onus of blame onto those of us who are simply using the curvature formula they created and use themselves:
http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Eight+Inches+per+Miles+squared+Formula+Derivation
http://www.davidsenesac.com/Information/line_of_sight.html
https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=30&h0=10&unit=imperial
http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Eight+Inches+per+Miles+squared+Formula+Derivation
http://www.davidsenesac.com/Information/line_of_sight.html
https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=30&h0=10&unit=imperial
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Ooh that’s really great to know that it was given by the globers/nasa. I appreciate the response!
This guy/video definitely seemed to just want to disprove common arguments but not address the assumptions behind his approach or where his math/logic was coming from.
This guy/video definitely seemed to just want to disprove common arguments but not address the assumptions behind his approach or where his math/logic was coming from.
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
Great video my friend! Safe to say we shouldn’t be able to see all the way across Florida .
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Re: No Curvature on the Flat Earth
susie wrote:
Hawaii is Flat
Video Proof no curve of Earth in Hawaii. Calculations proving there is absolutely no curve of Earth between Kauai and Oahu.
Thank you! Very clear explanation, understandable for a layman like me. Found this quick curvature calculator site. The island should be 1.47 miles below the horizon if looking from sea level to sea level. Taking into account your elevation theclearly visibke base of the island should be a few thousand feet below the 'curve'. Looking forward to sharing with my 'scientific' friend, who is thankfully open-minded and up for sincere debate!
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