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No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Thinkforyourself Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:20 pm
Posted by on 05/04/2015
A thread to post photos and footage showing how the large bodies of water such as the ocean don't ever curve in reality, proving that the Earth is flat.
A thread to post photos and footage showing how the large bodies of water such as the ocean don't ever curve in reality, proving that the Earth is flat.
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Thinkforyourself Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:20 pm
Posted by schpankme on 05/04/2015
Some images:
Some images:
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Thinkforyourself Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:21 pm
Posted by schpankme on 05/04/2015
It means you can take distance photo's of the Chicago Skyline, anytime day or night, and they show the Flat Earth,
they are rare occurrences happening > nightly.
The News people always make it sound rare, yet in the photo's I've provided, you can see the shore line across the
length of the photo, and the buildings are not hidden.
It means you can take distance photo's of the Chicago Skyline, anytime day or night, and they show the Flat Earth,
they are rare occurrences happening > nightly.
The News people always make it sound rare, yet in the photo's I've provided, you can see the shore line across the
length of the photo, and the buildings are not hidden.
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Thinkforyourself Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:21 pm
Posted by eschaton on 05/04/2015
This news anchor will give you a crystal clear reason why it's visible.
May 4, 2015 0:31:01 GMT schpankme said:
It means you can take distance photo's of the Chicago Skyline, anytime day or night, and they show the Flat Earth,
they are rare occurrences happing > nightly.
The News people always make it sound rare, yet in the photo's I've provided, you can see the shore line across the
length of the photo, and the builds are not hidden.
This news anchor will give you a crystal clear reason why it's visible.
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Thinkforyourself Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:22 pm
Posted by Admin on 05/04/2015
There should be nearly 2 miles of curved water between the photographer and Mt. McKinley here:
Spherical trigonometry works by squaring the mile (or other unit of measurement) to get the curve, so to figure out the supposed curvature of something 130 miles away it is 130 x 130 = 16900 x 8in. = 135200in. / 12 = 11,267 feet or over 2 miles below the horizon! Depending on your elevation above sea-level you would have to subtract your altitude first, but even still McKinley should be about 2 miles below the line of sight.
The Natural Physics of Water Prove Earth Flat
It is part of the natural physics of water and other fluids to always find their level and remain flat. If disturbed in any way, motion ensues until the flat level is resumed. If dammed up then released, the nature of all liquids is to quickly flood outwards taking the easiest course towards finding its new level.
“The upper surface of a fluid at rest is a horizontal plane. Because if a part of the surface were higher than the rest, those parts of the fluid which were under it would exert a greater pressure upon the surrounding parts than they receive from them, so that motion would take place amongst the particles and continue until there were none at a higher level than the rest, that is, until the upper surface of the whole mass of fluid became a horizontal plane.” -W.T. Lynn, “First Principles of Natural Philosophy”
If the Earth is an extended flat plane, then this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense. If, however, the Earth is a giant sphere tilted on its vertical axis spinning through never-ending space then it follows that truly flat, consistently level surfaces do not exist here! Moreover, if the Earth is spherical then it follows that the surface of all Earth’s water, including the massive oceans, must maintain a certain degree of convexity. But this is contrary to the fundamental physical nature of water to always be and remain level!
“The surface of all water, when not agitated by natural causes, such as winds, tides, earthquakes etc. is perfectly level. The sense of sight proves this to every unprejudiced and reasonable mind. Can any so-called scientist, who teaches that the earth is a whirling globe, take a heap of liquid water, whirl it round, and so make rotundity? He cannot. Therefore it is utterly impossible to prove that an ocean is a whirling rotund section of a globular earth, rushing through ‘space’ at the lying-given-rate of false philosophers.” -William Thomas Wiseman, “The Earth An Irregular Plane”
If we were living on a whirling ball-Earth, every pond, lake, marsh, canal and other large body of standing water, each part would have to comprise a slight arc or semi-circle curveting downwards from the central summit. For example, if the ball-Earth were 25,000 miles in circumference as NASA and modern astronomers say, then spherical trigonometry dictates the surface of all standing water must curve downwards an easily measureable 8 inches per mile multiplied by the square of the distance. This means along a 6 mile channel of standing water the Earth would dip 6 feet on either end from the central peak. To the benefit of true science, and to the detriment of modern astronomy’s pseudo-science, such an experiment can and has been tested.
In Cambridge, England there is a 20 mile canal called the Old Bedford which passes in a straight line through the Fenlands known as the Bedford Level. The water has no interruption from locks or water-gates of any kind and remains stationary making it perfectly suitable for determining whether any amount of convexity/curvature actually exists. In the latter part of the 19th century, Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, a famous Flat-Earther and author of the fine book, “Earth Not a Globe! An Experimental Inquiry into the True Figure of the Earth: Proving it a Plane, Without Axial or Orbital Motion; and the Only Material World in the Universe!” travelled to the Bedford level and performed a series of experiments to determine whether the surface of standing water is flat or convex.
“A boat, with a flag-staff, the top of the flag 5 feet above the surface of the water, was directed to sail from a place called ‘Welche's Dam’ (a well-known ferry passage), to another called ‘Welney Bridge.’ These two points are six statute miles apart. The author, with a good telescope, went into the water; and with the eye about 8 inches above the surface, observed the receding boat during the whole period required to sail to Welney Bridge. The flag and the boat were distinctly visible throughout the whole distance! There could be no mistake as to the distance passed over, as the man in charge of the boat had instructions to lift one of his oars to the top of the arch the moment he reached the bridge. The experiment commenced about three o'clock in the afternoon of a summer's day, and the sun was shining brightly and nearly behind or against the boat during the whole of its passage. Every necessary condition had been fulfilled, and the result was to the last degree definite and satisfactory. The conclusion was unavoidable that the surface of the water for a length of six miles did not to any appreciable extent decline or curvate downwards from the line of sight. But if the earth is a globe, the surface of the six miles length of water would have been 6 feet higher in the centre than at the two extremities. From this experiment it follows that the surface of standing water is not convex, and therefore that the Earth is not a globe! On the contrary, this simple experiment is all-sufficient to prove that the surface of the water is parallel to the line-of-sight, and is therefore horizontal, and that the Earth cannot be other than a plane!” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe! An Experimental Inquiry into the True Figure of the Earth: Proving it a Plane, Without Axial or Orbital Motion; and the Only Material World in The Universe!” (12-13)
In a second experiment, Dr. Rowbotham placed seven flags along the edge of the water each one mile distant from the next with their tops positioned 5 feet above the surface. Near the last one he also positioned a longer, 8 foot staff bearing a 3 foot flag so that its bottom aligned precisely with the tops of the other flags. He then mounted a telescope at a height of 5 feet behind the first flag and took his observations. If the Earth was a globe of 25,000 miles, each successive flag would have to decline a definite and determined amount below the last. The first and second flags simply established the line of sight, the third flag should then fall 8 inches below the second, the fourth flag 32 inches below, the fifth 6 feet, the sixth 10 feet 8 inches, and the seventh flag should be a clear 16 feet 8 inches below the line of sight! Even if the Earth was a globe of a hundred thousand miles, an amount of easily measurable curvature should and would still be evident in this experiment. But the reality is not a single inch of curvature was detected and the flags all lined up perfectly as consistent with a flat plane.
“The rotundity of the earth would necessitate the above conditions; but as they cannot be found to exist, the doctrine must be pronounced as only a simple theory, having no foundation in fact--a pure invention of misdirected genius; splendid in its comprehensiveness and bearing upon natural phenomena; but, nevertheless, mathematical and logical necessities compel its denunciation as an absolute falsehood.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (14)
Dr. Rowbotham conducted several other experiments using telescopes, spirit levels, and “theodolites,” special precision instruments used for measuring angles in horizontal or vertical planes. By positioning them at equal heights aimed at each other successively he proved over and over the Earth to be perfectly flat for miles without a single inch of curvature. His findings caused quite a stir in the scientific community and thanks to 30 years of his efforts, the shape of the Earth became a hot topic of debate around the turn of the nineteenth century.
“Is water level, or is it not?’ was a question once asked of an astronomer. ‘Practically, yes; theoretically, no,’ was the reply. Now, when theory does not harmonize with practice, the best thing to do is to drop the theory. (It is getting too late, now to say ‘So much the worse for the facts!’) To drop the theory which supposes a curved surface to standing water is to acknowledge the facts. Whenever experiments have been tried on the surface of standing water, the surface has always been found to be level. If the Earth were a globe, the surface of all standing water would be convex. This is an experimental proof that Earth is not a globe.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe”
“Since any given body of water must have a level surface, no one part higher than another, and seeing that all our oceans (a few inland seas excepted) are connected together, it follows that they are all VIRTUALLY OF THE SAME LEVEL.” -The English Mechanic, 26th, June 1896
Astronomers say the magical magnetism of gravity is what keeps all the oceans of the world stuck to the ball-Earth. They say that because the Earth is so massive, by virtue of this mass it creates a magic force able to hold people, oceans and atmosphere tightly clung to the underside of the spinning ball. Unfortunately, however, they cannot provide any practical example of this on a scale smaller than the planetary. For example, a spinning wet tennis ball has the exact opposite effect of the supposed ball-Earth! Any water poured over it simply falls off the sides, and giving it a spin results in water flying off 360 degrees like a dog shaking after a bath. Astronomers concede the wet tennis ball example displays the opposite effect of their supposed ball-Earth, but claim that at some unknown mass, the magic adhesive properties of gravity suddenly kick in allowing the spinning wet tennis ball-Earth to keep every drop of “gravitized” water stuck to the surface. Again, their theory flies in the face of all practical evidence, but they have been running with it for 500 years, so why stop now?
“If the Earth were a globe, rolling and dashing through ‘space’ at the rate of ‘a hundred miles in five seconds of time,’ the waters of seas and oceans could not, by any known law, be kept on its surface - the assertion that they could be retained under these circumstances being an outrage upon human understanding and credulity! But as the Earth - that is, the habitable world of dry land - is found to be ‘standing out of the water and in the water’ of the ‘mighty deep,’ whose circumferential boundary is ice, we may throw the statement back into the teeth of those who make it and flaunt before their faces the flag of reason and common sense, inscribed with a proof that the Earth is not a globe.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (86)
In one portion of its long route, the great river Nile flows for a thousand miles with a fall of only one foot! This is a feat which, of course, would be a sheer impossibility if the Earth had spherical curvature. Many other rivers including the Congo in West Africa, the Amazon in South America, and the Mississippi in North America all flow for thousands of miles in directions totally incompatible with the supposed globularity of the Earth as well.
“Rivers run DOWN to the sea because of the inclination of their beds. Rising at an altitude above sea-level, in some cases thousands of feet above the sea, they follow the easiest route to their level - the sea. The ‘Parana’ and ‘Paraguay’ in South America are navigable for over 2,000 miles, and their waters run the same way until they find their level of stability, where the sea tides begin. But if the world be a globe, the ‘Amazon’ in South America that flows always in an easterly direction, would sometimes be running uphill and sometimes down, according to the movement of the globe. Then the ‘Congo’ in West Africa, that always pursues a westerly course to the sea, would in the same manner be running alternately up and down. When that point of the globe exactly between them was up, they would both be running up, although in opposite directions; and when the globe took half a turn, they would both be running down! We know from practical experiment that water will find its level, and cannot by any possibility remain other than level, or flat, or horizontal - whatever term may be used to express the idea. It is therefore quite out of the range of possibility that rivers could do as they would have to do on a globe.” -Thomas Winship, “Zetetic Cosmogeny” (110)
“Whoever heard of a river in any part of its course flowing uphill? Yet this it would require to do were the Earth a Globe. Rivers, like the Mississippi, which flow from the North southwards towards the Equator, would need, according to Modem Astronomic theory, to run upwards, as the Earth at the Equator is said to bulge out considerably more, or, in other words, is higher than at any other part. Thus the Mississippi, in its immense course of over 3,000 miles, would have to ascend 11 miles before it reached the Gulf of Mexico!” -David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma” (126)
“There are rivers which flow east, west, north, and south - that is, rivers are flowing in all directions over the Earth's surface, and at the same time. Now, if the Earth were a globe, some of these rivers would be flowing up-hill and others down, taking it for a fact that there really is an ‘up’ and a ‘down’ in nature, whatever form she assumes. But, since rivers do not flow up-hill, and the globular theory requires that they should, it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (85)
There should be nearly 2 miles of curved water between the photographer and Mt. McKinley here:
Spherical trigonometry works by squaring the mile (or other unit of measurement) to get the curve, so to figure out the supposed curvature of something 130 miles away it is 130 x 130 = 16900 x 8in. = 135200in. / 12 = 11,267 feet or over 2 miles below the horizon! Depending on your elevation above sea-level you would have to subtract your altitude first, but even still McKinley should be about 2 miles below the line of sight.
The Natural Physics of Water Prove Earth Flat
It is part of the natural physics of water and other fluids to always find their level and remain flat. If disturbed in any way, motion ensues until the flat level is resumed. If dammed up then released, the nature of all liquids is to quickly flood outwards taking the easiest course towards finding its new level.
“The upper surface of a fluid at rest is a horizontal plane. Because if a part of the surface were higher than the rest, those parts of the fluid which were under it would exert a greater pressure upon the surrounding parts than they receive from them, so that motion would take place amongst the particles and continue until there were none at a higher level than the rest, that is, until the upper surface of the whole mass of fluid became a horizontal plane.” -W.T. Lynn, “First Principles of Natural Philosophy”
If the Earth is an extended flat plane, then this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense. If, however, the Earth is a giant sphere tilted on its vertical axis spinning through never-ending space then it follows that truly flat, consistently level surfaces do not exist here! Moreover, if the Earth is spherical then it follows that the surface of all Earth’s water, including the massive oceans, must maintain a certain degree of convexity. But this is contrary to the fundamental physical nature of water to always be and remain level!
“The surface of all water, when not agitated by natural causes, such as winds, tides, earthquakes etc. is perfectly level. The sense of sight proves this to every unprejudiced and reasonable mind. Can any so-called scientist, who teaches that the earth is a whirling globe, take a heap of liquid water, whirl it round, and so make rotundity? He cannot. Therefore it is utterly impossible to prove that an ocean is a whirling rotund section of a globular earth, rushing through ‘space’ at the lying-given-rate of false philosophers.” -William Thomas Wiseman, “The Earth An Irregular Plane”
If we were living on a whirling ball-Earth, every pond, lake, marsh, canal and other large body of standing water, each part would have to comprise a slight arc or semi-circle curveting downwards from the central summit. For example, if the ball-Earth were 25,000 miles in circumference as NASA and modern astronomers say, then spherical trigonometry dictates the surface of all standing water must curve downwards an easily measureable 8 inches per mile multiplied by the square of the distance. This means along a 6 mile channel of standing water the Earth would dip 6 feet on either end from the central peak. To the benefit of true science, and to the detriment of modern astronomy’s pseudo-science, such an experiment can and has been tested.
In Cambridge, England there is a 20 mile canal called the Old Bedford which passes in a straight line through the Fenlands known as the Bedford Level. The water has no interruption from locks or water-gates of any kind and remains stationary making it perfectly suitable for determining whether any amount of convexity/curvature actually exists. In the latter part of the 19th century, Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, a famous Flat-Earther and author of the fine book, “Earth Not a Globe! An Experimental Inquiry into the True Figure of the Earth: Proving it a Plane, Without Axial or Orbital Motion; and the Only Material World in the Universe!” travelled to the Bedford level and performed a series of experiments to determine whether the surface of standing water is flat or convex.
“A boat, with a flag-staff, the top of the flag 5 feet above the surface of the water, was directed to sail from a place called ‘Welche's Dam’ (a well-known ferry passage), to another called ‘Welney Bridge.’ These two points are six statute miles apart. The author, with a good telescope, went into the water; and with the eye about 8 inches above the surface, observed the receding boat during the whole period required to sail to Welney Bridge. The flag and the boat were distinctly visible throughout the whole distance! There could be no mistake as to the distance passed over, as the man in charge of the boat had instructions to lift one of his oars to the top of the arch the moment he reached the bridge. The experiment commenced about three o'clock in the afternoon of a summer's day, and the sun was shining brightly and nearly behind or against the boat during the whole of its passage. Every necessary condition had been fulfilled, and the result was to the last degree definite and satisfactory. The conclusion was unavoidable that the surface of the water for a length of six miles did not to any appreciable extent decline or curvate downwards from the line of sight. But if the earth is a globe, the surface of the six miles length of water would have been 6 feet higher in the centre than at the two extremities. From this experiment it follows that the surface of standing water is not convex, and therefore that the Earth is not a globe! On the contrary, this simple experiment is all-sufficient to prove that the surface of the water is parallel to the line-of-sight, and is therefore horizontal, and that the Earth cannot be other than a plane!” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe! An Experimental Inquiry into the True Figure of the Earth: Proving it a Plane, Without Axial or Orbital Motion; and the Only Material World in The Universe!” (12-13)
In a second experiment, Dr. Rowbotham placed seven flags along the edge of the water each one mile distant from the next with their tops positioned 5 feet above the surface. Near the last one he also positioned a longer, 8 foot staff bearing a 3 foot flag so that its bottom aligned precisely with the tops of the other flags. He then mounted a telescope at a height of 5 feet behind the first flag and took his observations. If the Earth was a globe of 25,000 miles, each successive flag would have to decline a definite and determined amount below the last. The first and second flags simply established the line of sight, the third flag should then fall 8 inches below the second, the fourth flag 32 inches below, the fifth 6 feet, the sixth 10 feet 8 inches, and the seventh flag should be a clear 16 feet 8 inches below the line of sight! Even if the Earth was a globe of a hundred thousand miles, an amount of easily measurable curvature should and would still be evident in this experiment. But the reality is not a single inch of curvature was detected and the flags all lined up perfectly as consistent with a flat plane.
“The rotundity of the earth would necessitate the above conditions; but as they cannot be found to exist, the doctrine must be pronounced as only a simple theory, having no foundation in fact--a pure invention of misdirected genius; splendid in its comprehensiveness and bearing upon natural phenomena; but, nevertheless, mathematical and logical necessities compel its denunciation as an absolute falsehood.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (14)
Dr. Rowbotham conducted several other experiments using telescopes, spirit levels, and “theodolites,” special precision instruments used for measuring angles in horizontal or vertical planes. By positioning them at equal heights aimed at each other successively he proved over and over the Earth to be perfectly flat for miles without a single inch of curvature. His findings caused quite a stir in the scientific community and thanks to 30 years of his efforts, the shape of the Earth became a hot topic of debate around the turn of the nineteenth century.
“Is water level, or is it not?’ was a question once asked of an astronomer. ‘Practically, yes; theoretically, no,’ was the reply. Now, when theory does not harmonize with practice, the best thing to do is to drop the theory. (It is getting too late, now to say ‘So much the worse for the facts!’) To drop the theory which supposes a curved surface to standing water is to acknowledge the facts. Whenever experiments have been tried on the surface of standing water, the surface has always been found to be level. If the Earth were a globe, the surface of all standing water would be convex. This is an experimental proof that Earth is not a globe.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe”
“Since any given body of water must have a level surface, no one part higher than another, and seeing that all our oceans (a few inland seas excepted) are connected together, it follows that they are all VIRTUALLY OF THE SAME LEVEL.” -The English Mechanic, 26th, June 1896
Astronomers say the magical magnetism of gravity is what keeps all the oceans of the world stuck to the ball-Earth. They say that because the Earth is so massive, by virtue of this mass it creates a magic force able to hold people, oceans and atmosphere tightly clung to the underside of the spinning ball. Unfortunately, however, they cannot provide any practical example of this on a scale smaller than the planetary. For example, a spinning wet tennis ball has the exact opposite effect of the supposed ball-Earth! Any water poured over it simply falls off the sides, and giving it a spin results in water flying off 360 degrees like a dog shaking after a bath. Astronomers concede the wet tennis ball example displays the opposite effect of their supposed ball-Earth, but claim that at some unknown mass, the magic adhesive properties of gravity suddenly kick in allowing the spinning wet tennis ball-Earth to keep every drop of “gravitized” water stuck to the surface. Again, their theory flies in the face of all practical evidence, but they have been running with it for 500 years, so why stop now?
“If the Earth were a globe, rolling and dashing through ‘space’ at the rate of ‘a hundred miles in five seconds of time,’ the waters of seas and oceans could not, by any known law, be kept on its surface - the assertion that they could be retained under these circumstances being an outrage upon human understanding and credulity! But as the Earth - that is, the habitable world of dry land - is found to be ‘standing out of the water and in the water’ of the ‘mighty deep,’ whose circumferential boundary is ice, we may throw the statement back into the teeth of those who make it and flaunt before their faces the flag of reason and common sense, inscribed with a proof that the Earth is not a globe.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (86)
In one portion of its long route, the great river Nile flows for a thousand miles with a fall of only one foot! This is a feat which, of course, would be a sheer impossibility if the Earth had spherical curvature. Many other rivers including the Congo in West Africa, the Amazon in South America, and the Mississippi in North America all flow for thousands of miles in directions totally incompatible with the supposed globularity of the Earth as well.
“Rivers run DOWN to the sea because of the inclination of their beds. Rising at an altitude above sea-level, in some cases thousands of feet above the sea, they follow the easiest route to their level - the sea. The ‘Parana’ and ‘Paraguay’ in South America are navigable for over 2,000 miles, and their waters run the same way until they find their level of stability, where the sea tides begin. But if the world be a globe, the ‘Amazon’ in South America that flows always in an easterly direction, would sometimes be running uphill and sometimes down, according to the movement of the globe. Then the ‘Congo’ in West Africa, that always pursues a westerly course to the sea, would in the same manner be running alternately up and down. When that point of the globe exactly between them was up, they would both be running up, although in opposite directions; and when the globe took half a turn, they would both be running down! We know from practical experiment that water will find its level, and cannot by any possibility remain other than level, or flat, or horizontal - whatever term may be used to express the idea. It is therefore quite out of the range of possibility that rivers could do as they would have to do on a globe.” -Thomas Winship, “Zetetic Cosmogeny” (110)
“Whoever heard of a river in any part of its course flowing uphill? Yet this it would require to do were the Earth a Globe. Rivers, like the Mississippi, which flow from the North southwards towards the Equator, would need, according to Modem Astronomic theory, to run upwards, as the Earth at the Equator is said to bulge out considerably more, or, in other words, is higher than at any other part. Thus the Mississippi, in its immense course of over 3,000 miles, would have to ascend 11 miles before it reached the Gulf of Mexico!” -David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma” (126)
“There are rivers which flow east, west, north, and south - that is, rivers are flowing in all directions over the Earth's surface, and at the same time. Now, if the Earth were a globe, some of these rivers would be flowing up-hill and others down, taking it for a fact that there really is an ‘up’ and a ‘down’ in nature, whatever form she assumes. But, since rivers do not flow up-hill, and the globular theory requires that they should, it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (85)
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Thinkforyourself Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:22 pm
Posted by schpankme on 05/04/2015
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Thinkforyourself Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:22 pm
Posted by susie on 05/04/2015
I borrowed a quote from here and posed a text message to a few friends:
"It is part of the natural physics of water and other fluids to always find their level and remain flat. If disturbed in any way, motion ensues until the flat level is resumed. If dammed up then released, the nature of all liquids is to quickly flood outwards taking the easiest course towards finding its new level.
“The upper surface of a fluid at rest is a horizontal plane. Because if a part of the surface were higher than the rest, those parts of the fluid which were under it would exert a greater pressure upon the surrounding parts than they receive from them, so that motion would take place amongst the particles and continue until there were none at a higher level than the rest, that is, until the upper surface of the whole mass of fluid became a horizontal plane.” -W.T. Lynn, “First Principles of Natural Philosophy”
Lake ponchartrain is flat. The causeway bridge appears just above the flat lake parallel to it from the Twin Spans. it "appears" flat to the eye because it is in actuality, flat.
Flat 23 mile causeway bridge spanning Lake Ponchartrain. There is no curve.
I borrowed a quote from here and posed a text message to a few friends:
"It is part of the natural physics of water and other fluids to always find their level and remain flat. If disturbed in any way, motion ensues until the flat level is resumed. If dammed up then released, the nature of all liquids is to quickly flood outwards taking the easiest course towards finding its new level.
“The upper surface of a fluid at rest is a horizontal plane. Because if a part of the surface were higher than the rest, those parts of the fluid which were under it would exert a greater pressure upon the surrounding parts than they receive from them, so that motion would take place amongst the particles and continue until there were none at a higher level than the rest, that is, until the upper surface of the whole mass of fluid became a horizontal plane.” -W.T. Lynn, “First Principles of Natural Philosophy”
Lake ponchartrain is flat. The causeway bridge appears just above the flat lake parallel to it from the Twin Spans. it "appears" flat to the eye because it is in actuality, flat.
Flat 23 mile causeway bridge spanning Lake Ponchartrain. There is no curve.
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
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I'm not seeing it Todd. The horizon always looks flat. Water always finds and maintains its level. The land has been measured time and again and found to have no curvature whatsoever.
I'm not seeing it Todd. The horizon always looks flat. Water always finds and maintains its level. The land has been measured time and again and found to have no curvature whatsoever.
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by Thinkforyourself Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:24 pm
Posted by susie on 05/29/2015
I just posted this on Facebook:
"There it is, the outline of Nola from mile marker 23 of the causeway.
Ok, one of you scientific minds wanna explain why it is not out of sight as the curve of the earth warrants??
Since you dont look straight on the city it will be even farther of trajectory adding distance traveled left of direct line of sight to the center.
Even 23x23x8/12 means the city is actually 353 ft BELOW the horizon.
Panning left and right the horizon remains flat the entire distance. That distance is at least 200 miles around without any curving."
I just posted this on Facebook:
"There it is, the outline of Nola from mile marker 23 of the causeway.
Ok, one of you scientific minds wanna explain why it is not out of sight as the curve of the earth warrants??
Since you dont look straight on the city it will be even farther of trajectory adding distance traveled left of direct line of sight to the center.
Even 23x23x8/12 means the city is actually 353 ft BELOW the horizon.
Panning left and right the horizon remains flat the entire distance. That distance is at least 200 miles around without any curving."
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Thinkforyourself Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:25 pm
Posted by icarus15 on 06/02/2015
This seemed like a good enough spot to post this interesting video.
A ModernMarvels documentaty can be quoted as saying,
"To compensate for the curvature of the earth, the lake Pontchartrain Causeway was built roughly 2inches longer then the distance it spans"
HUHH...say what?!
I wonder how much extra road did these guys need for their 26.4mile bridge.
I know it isn't straight but according to my calculator they would have to consider a whopping 465ft almost, due to curvature
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/Asia/China/8248197/china-builds-worlds-longest-bridge.html
Now I'm really not sure about this but before i realized flat Earth, i just assumed that engineers and archeticts MUST include these extra feet per mile, due to curvature, when measuring long distances.
When they're measuring from A to B and that is one mile. Is one mile a mile, or is one mile actually a mile and 8" and that's included in their calculations but they just call it a mile for some reason?
This seemed like a good enough spot to post this interesting video.
A ModernMarvels documentaty can be quoted as saying,
"To compensate for the curvature of the earth, the lake Pontchartrain Causeway was built roughly 2inches longer then the distance it spans"
HUHH...say what?!
I wonder how much extra road did these guys need for their 26.4mile bridge.
I know it isn't straight but according to my calculator they would have to consider a whopping 465ft almost, due to curvature
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/Asia/China/8248197/china-builds-worlds-longest-bridge.html
Now I'm really not sure about this but before i realized flat Earth, i just assumed that engineers and archeticts MUST include these extra feet per mile, due to curvature, when measuring long distances.
When they're measuring from A to B and that is one mile. Is one mile a mile, or is one mile actually a mile and 8" and that's included in their calculations but they just call it a mile for some reason?
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Thinkforyourself Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:25 pm
Posted by susie on 06/03/2015
www.cs.nyu.edu/visual/home/proj/tiger/gisfaq.html
More NASA bullshit saying after 12 miles the curvature equation wont work.
www.cs.nyu.edu/visual/home/proj/tiger/gisfaq.html
More NASA bullshit saying after 12 miles the curvature equation wont work.
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Thinkforyourself Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:26 pm
Posted by allbetsareoff on 07/19/2015
This news anchor will give you a crystal clear reason why it's visible.I have played some poker and know a little about body language and tells.
Watch this guy at 0:55.... not even he believes what he is saying. Watch him shake his head side to side as he tries to explain what is happening. His body does not agree with his mouth. He is lying and knows it.
Also the longer than normal blink is another way people try to hide the truth when speaking BS.
Just an observation.
May 4, 2015 0:46:09 GMT eschaton said:
May 4, 2015 0:31:01 GMT schpankme said:
It means you can take distance photo's of the Chicago Skyline, anytime day or night, and they show the Flat Earth,
they are rare occurrences happing > nightly.
The News people always make it sound rare, yet in the photo's I've provided, you can see the shore line across the
length of the photo, and the builds are not hidden.
This news anchor will give you a crystal clear reason why it's visible.
I have played some poker and know a little about body language and tells.Watch this guy at 0:55.... not even he believes what he is saying. Watch him shake his head side to side as he tries to explain what is happening. His body does not agree with his mouth. He is lying and knows it.
Also the longer than normal blink is another way people try to hide the truth when speaking BS.
Just an observation.
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Thinkforyourself Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:28 pm
Posted by csp on 07/19/2015
I love watching people try and explain mirages, it's almost become a fetish of mine now - look at this trash:
Also, does anyone remember this in the news?
China ghost cities, seen over river after massive down pour... maybe that down pour knocked all of the pollution down and let people actually see the massive skyscrapers much easier. Perhaps this is why china is so polluted, to stop people seeing these things "mirages"?
Do we have anyone here in China that can perhaps take some pictures?
I love watching people try and explain mirages, it's almost become a fetish of mine now - look at this trash:
Also, does anyone remember this in the news?
China ghost cities, seen over river after massive down pour... maybe that down pour knocked all of the pollution down and let people actually see the massive skyscrapers much easier. Perhaps this is why china is so polluted, to stop people seeing these things "mirages"?
Do we have anyone here in China that can perhaps take some pictures?
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Canals, waterways - Never a curve...
by vortexpuppy Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:53 am
The Caledonian Canal through the Great Glen
Great little video for research…
Multiple waterways joining the Atlantic to the North Sea cutting through Scotland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caledonian_Canal
Built by digging in the dirt ….
https://youtu.be/as-meSBcbY0?t=5m10s
(… a professional navvy is expected to dig 12 cubic yards per day and navigate the curvature of the earth. How did they do that with a spade then? lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navvy )
from Tommy the master mason ….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Telford
… part of an elite club
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Engineering_Hall_of_Fame
… and with this long list of knighted masons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_Institution_of_Civil_Engineers
More Tommy canals in Sweden …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ta_Canal
His American counterpart - Bennie …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Wright
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erie_Canal
A video of the Great Glen with music. Lots of ups and downs and flat calms to be seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev4zwlz5wq0
Great little video for research…
Multiple waterways joining the Atlantic to the North Sea cutting through Scotland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caledonian_Canal
Built by digging in the dirt ….
https://youtu.be/as-meSBcbY0?t=5m10s
(… a professional navvy is expected to dig 12 cubic yards per day and navigate the curvature of the earth. How did they do that with a spade then? lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navvy )
from Tommy the master mason ….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Telford
… part of an elite club
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Engineering_Hall_of_Fame
… and with this long list of knighted masons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_Institution_of_Civil_Engineers
More Tommy canals in Sweden …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ta_Canal
His American counterpart - Bennie …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Wright
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erie_Canal
A video of the Great Glen with music. Lots of ups and downs and flat calms to be seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev4zwlz5wq0
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by vortexpuppy Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:52 pm
Priceless ...
Pure dead brilliant ...
https://youtu.be/0x3jertC8vc?t=6m03s
.. a galaxy far, far away. lol.
Pure dead brilliant ...
https://youtu.be/0x3jertC8vc?t=6m03s
.. a galaxy far, far away. lol.
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Schpankme Mon May 16, 2016 1:21 am
Painting with the word Flat in the title from the early 1830's.
Title: Flat country shank at Bay of Greifswald
Artist: Caspar David Friedrich
Created: 1830 -1834
Bay of Greifswald or Greifswald Bodden
"a basin in the southwestern Baltic Sea, off the shores of Germany in the state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. With an area of 514 km², it is the largest Bodden of the German Baltic coast." ~ Wikipedia
Bodden
"briny bodies of water often forming lagoons, along the southwestern shores of the Baltic Sea, primarily in Germany's state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. These lagoons can be found especially around the island of Rügen, Usedom and the Fischland-Darss-Zingst peninsula. Some of them are protected reserves, forming the Western Pomerania Lagoon Area National Park." ~ Wikipedia
Title: Flat country shank at Bay of Greifswald
Artist: Caspar David Friedrich
Created: 1830 -1834
Bay of Greifswald or Greifswald Bodden
"a basin in the southwestern Baltic Sea, off the shores of Germany in the state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. With an area of 514 km², it is the largest Bodden of the German Baltic coast." ~ Wikipedia
Bodden
"briny bodies of water often forming lagoons, along the southwestern shores of the Baltic Sea, primarily in Germany's state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. These lagoons can be found especially around the island of Rügen, Usedom and the Fischland-Darss-Zingst peninsula. Some of them are protected reserves, forming the Western Pomerania Lagoon Area National Park." ~ Wikipedia
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by Schpankme Mon May 16, 2016 3:28 am
World Atlas - Netherlands Geography
"The Netherlands is a very flat country with almost 25% of its land at, or below Sea-Level."
"Over many centuries severe floods devastated the Netherlands, killing tens of thousands. Determined to save their homeland and reclaim it from the sea, the Dutch used countless windmills to pump water out of low-lying areas. They constructed man-made hills (polders), raising the level of farms and villages. In the early 1930's the damming off the sea efforts continued when the Afsluitdijk (dike) was built."
"Today nearly 50% of the land here remains just above Sea-Level. The massive and costly Delta project and other engineering marvels have to date prevented the North Sea from doing any significant (additional) damage. However, climate change and rising waters could prove daunting to the Netherlands in the future."
"The Netherlands are crossed by hundreds of miles of navigable canals. One of the most important is the North Sea Canal, as it enables ocean-going ships to reach the port of Amsterdam."
In the Netherlands this is called Flat Water.
"The Netherlands is a very flat country with almost 25% of its land at, or below Sea-Level."
"Over many centuries severe floods devastated the Netherlands, killing tens of thousands. Determined to save their homeland and reclaim it from the sea, the Dutch used countless windmills to pump water out of low-lying areas. They constructed man-made hills (polders), raising the level of farms and villages. In the early 1930's the damming off the sea efforts continued when the Afsluitdijk (dike) was built."
"Today nearly 50% of the land here remains just above Sea-Level. The massive and costly Delta project and other engineering marvels have to date prevented the North Sea from doing any significant (additional) damage. However, climate change and rising waters could prove daunting to the Netherlands in the future."
"The Netherlands are crossed by hundreds of miles of navigable canals. One of the most important is the North Sea Canal, as it enables ocean-going ships to reach the port of Amsterdam."
In the Netherlands this is called Flat Water.
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Schpankme Mon May 23, 2016 5:53 am
Jenny Lake - located in Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming.
The lake is approximately 423 feet deep and covers about 1,191 acres.
Four Seasons Resort Maui at Wailea
The lake is approximately 423 feet deep and covers about 1,191 acres.
Four Seasons Resort Maui at Wailea
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by Beashambassador Thu May 26, 2016 3:41 am
Flat Earth - Don't accept second hand accounts, go test for yourself!
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No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Beashambassador Mon May 30, 2016 6:53 pm
...X-Y, Y-Z, X-Z. Any axis you like confirms flat!
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Occamania Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:08 pm
It never ceases to amaze me how people will attempt to argue AROUND (there it is) the FACT that water always seeks its level.
It's THE #1 proof in my opinion.
It's THE #1 proof in my opinion.
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by vortexkitten Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:02 pm
Hi Friends, Guests and SHILL OUTS!
THINK NOW!!!! How BIG does a BALL need to be for water to cling to its surface AND take it's FORM/SHAPE ?????????????
THAT IS APPARENTLY....WHIZZING THROUGH EXISTENT SPACE. Gieme a break!
Quoting Schpankme ( who SUMS up things so succulently for Me )
There is No Gravity.)
Space is a man-made-construct; there is NO Space.
There is No Vacuum of Space.
There are no Freemasons in Space.
There is No ISS in Space
There are No Planets: Spaceballs like Space is a man-made-construct (Science Fiction Fact).
GREETINGS, hope you are well.)
And Susie says it as it is " Once you go Flat you can't go Back" Brilliant!
LET'S FLOOD SOCIAL MEDIA WITH THE TRUTH. THE POTENTIAL IS OURS FOR THE TAKING:-)
THINK NOW!!!! How BIG does a BALL need to be for water to cling to its surface AND take it's FORM/SHAPE ?????????????
THAT IS APPARENTLY....WHIZZING THROUGH EXISTENT SPACE. Gieme a break!
Quoting Schpankme ( who SUMS up things so succulently for Me )
There is No Gravity.)
Space is a man-made-construct; there is NO Space.
There is No Vacuum of Space.
There are no Freemasons in Space.
There is No ISS in Space
There are No Planets: Spaceballs like Space is a man-made-construct (Science Fiction Fact).
GREETINGS, hope you are well.)
And Susie says it as it is " Once you go Flat you can't go Back" Brilliant!
LET'S FLOOD SOCIAL MEDIA WITH THE TRUTH. THE POTENTIAL IS OURS FOR THE TAKING:-)
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Flatterygetsyoueverywhere Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:57 am
Thinkforyourself wrote:“The surface of all water, when not agitated by natural causes, such as winds, tides, earthquakes etc. is perfectly level. The sense of sight proves this to every unprejudiced and reasonable mind. Can any so-called scientist, who teaches that the earth is a whirling globe, take a heap of liquid water, whirl it round, and so make rotundity? He cannot. Therefore it is utterly impossible to prove that an ocean is a whirling rotund section of a globular earth, rushing through ‘space’ at the lying-given-rate of false philosophers.” -William Thomas Wiseman, “The Earth An Irregular Plane”
It's interesting because the same idea they laugh at for saying the water would fly off a spinning earth, is the same theory they use for the formation of the moon. Apparently a spinning earth can dislodge trillions of tons of rocks and elements to form a giant orbiting rock in the sky, but a little bit of evaporating water? Hosh posh.
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Re: No Curvature On Bodies Of Water
by Flatterygetsyoueverywhere Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:23 am
Thinkforyourself wrote:[b]
This news anchor will give you a crystal clear reason why it's visible.
Watch this guy at 0:55.... not even he believes what he is saying. Watch him shake his head side to side as he tries to explain what is happening. His body does not agree with his mouth. He is lying and knows it.
Also the longer than normal blink is another way people try to hide the truth when speaking BS.
Just an observation.
Just another observation. In the full video at time you can hear the "air vents" just like you would on a 757. Which leads to the question, how the hell are they pumping in oxygen? Like from where?? From what atmosphere are they getting oxygen to continue living on this thing? My guess the amount of oxygen 6 humans would need on a capsule like that would far outweigh anything they could bring up there. Has anyone looked into this?
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