Warning For Religious People

"Standing here on quick sand, the more we fight we sink
And vengeance gives us hope, at least that's what we think,
As we make amends by getting our revenge,
We sort nothing out, just add to the doubt
But with God on both sides, if death is justified
Whatever the name, then we're all to blame.
But I don't understand how one can kill a man
In the name peace, that's ridiculous
But I understand that I will defend my family, from both sides of misery."

Fire in the sky - John butler trio

Schpankme wrote:Google awards 15 year old for showing her "vision of the future."



Is that the Symbol for Transgender represented in the middle by Pink and Blue?


Replace the "E = mc 2" symbolism with the "Globe Earth" and you have the faith based religions of The New World Order.









ref"  cnet.com/news/google-doodle-winner-dreams-of-a-future-with-peace-diversity/

Also note the shadow hands behind them with Baphomet, peace sign and hearts.

GOOGLE PROMOTES WHITE-GENOCIDE

In a normal world, the daily "Google-Doodle" of March 31, 2017 would have infuriated Whitelandia. But because the West has ceased being normal, few will see anything wrong with the subversive messaging. Notice how the Jewish girl is positioned front & center -- the obvious ringleader. The Jewess is flanked by a Muslim girl and a South Indian tranny. The three White males are castoff to the far sides -- two of them are crippled and one of them homosexual (as evidenced by the rainbow Google logo G on his shirt).

Google's logo turned rainbow "gay" in 2015.

Everyone has some sort of logo on their shirt -- indicating that they belong to some greater group or cause -- except for the two non-smiling, isolated and crippled White boys who are barely dangling on either end.  They are nothing. The lone White Christian girl is sandwiched between the Indian tranny and the tall Black boy she will "hook up with" as the dispossessed pathetic little White boy with the cane looks on helplessly. She has no suitable White partners to marry or to mate with here because all of the White boys are either lame or queer.

In the background, a shadowy mob flashes devil's horn signs. Wow! Jewish-run Google's message couldn't possibly be anymore "in-your-face" than this -- "Die, White Man, die!" It is indeed "the Kalergi Plan" -- a long term scheme based upon genocidal hatred of European Man.

The visual tactic of isolating an idiot White guy to the far end of a "diverse" group is commonly used in the Jewish-dominated ad world -- as in the ATT television ad above left.

Kalergi was the son of an Austrian diplomat named Heinrich von Coudenhove-Kalergi and a Japanese woman named Mitsu Aoyama. His movement was financially backed by Zionist billionaire bosses such as Rothschild, Baruch and Warburg. With such high-powered backers and close contacts with European aristocrats and politicians, Kalergi managed to attract important heads of state to his project for European integration -- what Winston Churchill openly referred to, in 1945, as the "United States of Europe."

Very few people know that Kalergi, one of the main "founding fathers" of the process of European integration, also designed the genocide for the peoples of Europe.  As far back as 1922, Kalergi founded the "Pan-European" movement in Austria, which aimed to create a federation of nations led by the United States. European integration would be the first step in creating a future world government.

With the rise of Benito Mussolini in Italy, The Great One in Germany and General Francisco Franco in Spain, Kalergi's Jewish-inspired  'One Europe' project was put on hold. But very soon after the final crushing defeat of Germany in 1945, Kalergi's New World Order, thanks to the support of Winston Churchill, the Jewish B'nai B'rith and major newspapers like the New York Slimes, began to take its first visible steps toward fruition.

In his book 'Praktischer Idealismus', Kalergi boldly declares that the citizens of the future "United States of Europe" will not be White people anymore. In his own words:

"The man of the future will be of mixed race. The races and classes of today will gradually disappear due to the elimination of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-negroid race of the future, similar in appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with the diversity of individuals.

Of course, Kalergi's chosenite paymasters will not be replaced or blended out by this "Eurasian-negroid race of the future". Writes the hired hack of his paymasters:

"Instead of destroying European Judaism, Europe, against her will, refined and educated this people, driving them to their future status as a leading nation through this artificial evolutionary process. It's not surprising that the people that escaped from the Ghetto-Prison, became the spiritual nobility of Europe. Thus, the compassionate care given by Europe created a new breed of aristocrats. This happened when the European feudal aristocracy crashed because of the emancipation of the Jews."

In Kalergi's World, by his own admission, Whites are to be blended out of their own nations while the Jew becomes "the spiritual nobility." Is that not exactly what we are witnessing today? Ah, show us the shekels, Count K, show us the shekels!

The Kalergi plan is the New World Order plan. White genocide, as the "Google-Doodle" makes very clear, is very real and is playing out exactly as Kalergi and his handlers envisioned it. That is the real reason why World War II was imposed upon Hitler and Mussolini; and it is also the real reason why the Marshall Plan contained hidden provisions for unifying Europe; and it is also the reason why the Frumpy Frau of Germany is acting as "stupidly" as she is. Speaking of manly Marxist Merkel; for her slavish devotion to Rothschild's European Unionism, the wicked wench received the "prestigious" Charlemagne Prize in 2008 --- mistakenly referred to by some as the "Kalergi Prize" because Kalergi was its very first recipient in 1950.

Besides Kalergi and Merkel, other notable recipients of this treasonous "honor" include: Winston Churchill (1956), George Marshall (1959), Henry Kissinger (1987), Queen Beatrix of The Netherlands (1996), Tony Blair (1999), Bill Clinton (2000), Jean Claude Juncker (2006), Donald Tusk (2010) and Poop Francis (2016). Talk about a rogue's gallery of Globalist scumbags in service to Satan!

http://tomatobubble.com/google_white_genocide.html

Great view on why religion is not a factual evidence for a flat earth. He also expresses his view on trolls and shills. By far one of the most honest testimonials I have found on YouTube, on the flat earth, and how he feels about the movement.

This channel hardly shows up in searches or recommended on the sidebar. Small honest channels often get overlooked or buried by the shill fest and trolling daily videos. YouTube has limitations set in place, so all they have to do is release a certain amount of videos, and these never see the light of day. They send their hounds to bash the comments section to discourage them in making any more videos. YouTube as a platform, is very controlled. Sponsored channels get top hits on searches, even though they have 12k subs.....

Ballers_B_Trip'n wrote:
I'm a Christian
I believe 100% in the Bible
I'm fully a fundamental baptist christian

From now on start your conversations with:

• I purchased the Bible
  
• I read all the intricate Parables
  
• I worship the Circumcised, Jew Savior, called Christ
  
• I fear the Circumcised, Jew Boogieman, called Anti-Christ
  
• I agree with hate, slavery, animism, penis worship, and the diet of carnivorism
  
• I accept that NOAH saved all the animals which we could not eat before that story change
  
• I worship one of thirty-thousand (30,000) Religions, called Baptist, because it's the one and only true Religion
  

From birth, you are indoctrinated to worship the State Sponsored Religions of Heaven and Space (Fiction):

  Space  (Big Bang)  IN THEORETICAL SCIENCE WE TRUST
  Heaven  (Holy Spirit)  IN GOD WE TRUST

I am pretty sure that everybody entertains thoughts about creation / construction. (i.e. where are we and how the fuck did we get here?).

My appeal to everybody is to suspend all unverifiable beliefs (better to rid yourself all together but heh, each to their own) and shelf any questions regarding this until we find out more about this place we call "Earth".

This can only be done by EACH and EVERYONE thinking critically and engaging in active inquiry (there so many things to re-discover) using the common sense faculties we all share. Only in this way can we ALL agree on repeatable, testable FACTS and progress towards an objective truth.

When the FACTS are truly known and verifiable by EVERYBODY, then we can hopefully progress with the other questions.
One thing is surely obvious after thousands of years, that NO religion has verifiable answers otherwise the questions we have would no longer exist :-)

Agreed Vortex. Religion puts the horse before the carriage most times. If we do not know what we live on, how can we ponder its creation? Once we know where and what we live on, how it works, then we can try to determine how it came to be.

Not to come down on religion, but they are all written by men with agendas. I like how schpank puts it. Space or Heaven, those are the choices they give you.

TheresNoDownUnder wrote:
You say you are not anti Christ
but you mock him and ridicule those who believe in him

Your dishonesty in this matter is blatantly obvious as one looks over this thread by you
You have the spirit of antichrist

you are certainly no authority on whether the Bible is the Word of God or not
Your opinion means nothing in regards to a book that has made a dynamic change in millions of lives over the last 3,000 years
two thousand of those years with the New Testament alone
This thread is very offensive and should be deleted from IFERS website.

You are an indoctrinated Christpsychotic, one who will take a fictional story and injury others with it.

You now worship the Circumcised, Jew Savior, called Christ -- and his counter part -- the Circumcised, Jew Boogieman, called Anti-Christ.

You pay for printed words and call it the word of God, yet, nothing flows contemporaneously from your own mouth prior to your purchase.

You purchased the Bible, which  is full of "Hindu deities" throughout the Old Testament, such as Arjuna, Bala, Kali, Ramah, Uma and Kana. There are numerous Hindu names, Isaiah and Isaac, containing the ISA root. ISA is a name of Shiva and Oshea, or Hosea, is a transliteration of Osseo, another name of Shiva.  This is because JEWdaism is a direct copy of Hinduism converted to hate, slavery, animism, penis worship, and the diet of carnivorism. The Brahmas who eventually became known as JEW, decided it was more profitable to sell Animals for sacrifice, instead of worshiping them; now huge industries controlled by the JEWS provide the worlds population with Meat and Diary.  GOT KOSHER?

  see: Shaba, Saba, Tsaba, Seba, Sheba, Shebah, Shibah

SHIBAH, means Seven in Genesis 32-33

*Genesis 26:33*
The Well, the City, and ISAac have been named after SHIVA, as the root of ISAac means SHIVA.

Genesis 28:22
This stone pillar (matSEBA) shall be God’s house.

Gen 31:45
Jacob erects the stone pillar (matSEBA).

Judaism is taught at the yeSHIVA.


Even now, your brain cannot except what your eyes have just read.  This is because from birth you are indoctrinated to worship the fiction called HEAVEN (Holy Spirit) and SPACE (Big Bang).

TheresNoDownUnder wrote:...This thread is very offensive and should be deleted from IFERS website.

Spoiler alert - This is not a "safe place". If the truth is offensive, feel free to go to your local holy man in the nice suit and talk to them. I'm sure they will tell you want you want to hear. Just don't forget to pay your tithe on the way out. (How else would you expect them to buy they fancy suit and Lincoln towncar.)

TheresNoDownUnder wrote:This thread is very offensive and should be deleted from IFERS website.

The truth hurts, huh.

Here we have long time Christian Pastor, Ray Hagins, indoctrinated into the religion from birth; describing to his amzament, finding out that the same Chrst and Resurrection stories that he's been preaching for years came from much older cultures, which produce the same story lines as those written in the Bible.

Mormonism (LDS) was created by the Jews (Jesuits/Freemasons) to indoctrinate people who like to repeat their fictional stories about Planets and participate in Abrahamic penis worship.

Ab Ra ham
It was the Jews who found it beneficial to convert the many gods that people worshiped into Patriarchs. This conversion of polytheism into monotheism becomes self evident with Ra, the main Egyptian sun god, who literally became the character Abraham, the main Patriarch of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religions; or that of Nun, the main Egyptian primordial god, conceptualized as the chaotic waters that existed at the start of creation, became the character Noah (or Nuh, as he is called in Islam).

Since the die is cast we also find Abraham within the Mormon scriptures:  "The Book of Abraham, penned by Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints founder Joseph Smith, purports to be the translation of ancient "reformed Egyptian" text describing the life of Abraham."

The Book of Mormon, first published in March 1830, copyrighted by Joseph Smith

Then you may ask how did Planets find their way into the Mormon scriptures, as found in the 'Pearl of Great Price,' which is canonized by the LDS.  This fiction is an extension of the 1611 - Jesuit doctrine (crypto Jews) to institute Space and Planets within the State sponsored Religions (Theist and Atheist).  Hence we read about "Kolob" mentioned in the Book of Abraham, Chapter 3:

"And thus there shall be the reckoning of the time of one planet above another, until thou come nigh unto Kolob, which Kolob is after the reckoning of the Lord’s time; which Kolob is set nigh unto the throne of God, to govern all those planets which belong to the same border as that upon which thou standest. And it is given unto thee to know the set time of all the stars that are set to give light, until thou come near unto the throne of God."

As someone who has attended church since before I could walk, in a family comprised entirely of devout Christians, and having read the Bible cover to cover it has become increasingly clear to me that these holy scriptures were meant to be taken symbolically, not literally or historically.  Things like talking snakes and bushes, virgins giving birth, eating the body of Christ, staffs turning into serpents, and many other biblical “miracles” are all actually ancient spiritual symbolisms, found in many cultures/traditions around the world, thousands of years older than the Bible, referring to psychological phenomena, not historical events.  Of course snakes and bushes cannot talk, of course virgins cannot give birth, Christ isn’t a cannibal, wooden staffs cannot turn into living serpents, water cannot magically turn into wine, breads/fish cannot magically manifest from the aether, and humans cannot survive for days inside whale’s bellies.

2 Corinthians 3:6 clearly says the scriptures should NOT be read literally.  Matthew 13:34 says Jesus never spoke unless it was in parables.  He said people who took the word literally were like those who looked but could not see!  Modern fundamentalist Christians who read the Bible literally with their over-active left-brains are missing the whole point.  The reason Jesus cast nets to the right side, sits on the right side of God, and builds the door to the temple on the right side, is because he is leading us out of our lower left brains and into our holistic, symbolic, higher brain on the right.

The following full-length documentary featuring Eric Dubay, Pastor Bill Donahue, Pastor Ray Hagins, and John St. Julien explores the many esoteric symbolic hidden meanings in the Bible and sheds light on the deeper and more personal and practical wisdom hiding behind the church's literal interpretations.

This is why I am currently researching Gnostic Christianity.
Much of it, is based on the metaphorical meanings behind various sections of the bible.
It's mostly about, the physical world being full of chaos and ignorance.
Even the "resurrection" wasn't literal.
Yeshua(jesus) presented himself in many forms of man, to his disciples.
Yet appeared to Mary Magdalene(which was his wife) in a divine form. She recognized him, even still. This is stated in her gospel. Her gospel was apart of the collection from Nag Hammadi.
Buried to avoid being born by apostles of Peter. Turns out Peter was extremely jealous of her. Knowing not of the marriage, between Yeshua and Mary.
The bible was never intended to be literal. I agree with your statement.
The orthodox, view the literal.
The gnostic knew it couldn't be literal because only the physical realm, possess literal truth.
The spiritual realms, surpass all of that. So spiritual truth, must as well.
I'll definitely check out the documentary.

Intended to say "burned" above.
My apologies.

Eduard Smith wrote:You should have a bit more respect for the bible as 90% of the things they say have turned out to be true. It was written by prophets and they cared a lot about reality back then,so technically it is the word of God.

The great deception = ....

I have immense respect for the bible, but not be taken literally or as a history book.
As a child I packed my little bag and took myself off to scripture classes, by my own doing not my parents. I spent my whole life in and out of one church or another trying to figure out this god and Jesus thing. I always believed in god the creator but could never fully understand Jesus and his dying for our sins etc, no matter how many times it was explained to me, it never made sense with my inner logic. Growing up and gaining experience in life, along with god saying 'I change not' and 'there is nothing new under the sun', my questions became deeper and more determined that the past is the same as the present. I started to believe, after years of studying biblical languages and root meanings of words, that the truth of he bible is deeply hidden and the words in the book are definitely all parables and allegories, as it is said in the bible many times, and written like a story book is today, with morals and meanings that are not directly spoken, to keep the truth safe for all time.

Having said that, I do see that the world and religions have taken the book literally and have built their world around this book and therefore made it come true to the word. But as we see, there is no god in this world they have created, only religion, wars and separation. This world they have built without god is truly evil.  

I discovered flat earth because I heard Obama say "we don't have time for a flat earth society" and I wondered why in hell would he even say such a thing, there began my rapid fall down the rabbit hole. I had been awake to most conspiracies and govts for over 30 years but had never come across this FE. Suddenly everything made perfect sense, including religion and why I could never understand this blind faith in my heart, I always needed proof, and now I have it. Then next I found Eric's video showing Bill Donahue and that was the nail in the coffin for me. It made perfect sense, PERFECT SENSE.  But the bible has many different levels to it, as above so below, as without so within. I watched the series by Brian Austin Lambert, if you can ignore his horrible and arrogant attitude, there is much truth and science in there, showing the elctromagnetic fields and impact on our lives, backed up with the primer fields, which also work within as Bill Donahue shows. These also back up the hidden root words to many of the bible words and stories where far too many of the words had roots in blood, electricity and similar meanings, which always baffled me as to why, yet I never forgot.

Now that all this makes sense, I feel so free of all the guilt I carried that I must be a bad person because I will never get to heaven if I cannot understand Jesus. There is no guilt, there is no demons or devils, this is heaven on earth, if only we will make it be so. Lift the veil and you will see. The flat earth is out and people can see it, but religion is the last veil that none dare breach. Bruce Lypton will show how there is god in your cells, and that you can change, do or see whatever it is you believe you can, just as it says in the bible.

We have to ask how the priests of many religions, can rape women and children if they believed in god? Surely they know they will never get to heaven by doing so. There is no forgiveness without repentance, which does not mean confession. This means they do know the truth of the bible and the only consequences are here on earth, yet no man stops them. They try, but one at a time in court means they will continue forever, losing one or 2 at a time is the cost of doing business.

I am happy now, just waiting for the collapse of this system and the people to rise up, use our power and take back control of our world. The people should never have asked for a king, for we are the kings and should never have handed over our power to be governed.

When Bible thumping Heliocentric Priests read that Earth is stationary and unmovable, this metaphor actually means movable, spinning, Heavenly Spheres.

1 Chronicles 16:30
The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved.

Job 38:4
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?

1 Samuel 2:8
...“For the foundations of the earth are the LORD’s; on them he has set the world.

Psalm 93:1
...indeed, the world is established, firm and secure.

Psalm 96:10
...the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved...

Psalm 104:5
He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.

When your dogma is better then their dogma.



“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.” ~Seneca (c. 4 BC to AD 65)

the bible hasn't been written by prophets instead it has been compiled by scholars.

ex Jehovah's Witness
by my perspective

1. The Bible has numerous verses which imply a flat and motionless Earth, with a vaulted firm-ament over-head.

2. Most of the widely accepted religious books were written before the idea of a spherical earth was widely adopted.