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Post by Earthtoed Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:26 pm

FlatEarthHodor wrote:The larger FE 'influencer' accounts that have any easy time on Twitter (X) and YouTube are now creating an Overton Window where they're doubling down on supporting the experiment, and dismissing all concerns over fakery.  

It appears that if the original stunt is not believed, it will be used as a secondary tool to further divide the FE community.

They're not dumb. They understand 100% what this is doing to flat Earth.  

Their problem is what it is not doing to flat Earth. Earth is staying flat and flat Earth is staying easy to prove.

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Post by Dactylion Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:30 pm

John wrote:They are maybe using Virtual Production... with a screen like The Sphere in Las Vegas, but 360 degrees
Initially I thought so too, and in my earlier post pointed out the far-off shadows of the mountains cutting short in a direct line, despite the difference in distance and depth, which didnt look right to me, and speculated that it was the point where the screen meets the floor.

Then they position a fake studio sun in the same position as the fake one on-screen, to generate the shadows across everyone in the studio.

When we consider a few of the many other points raised:

  • No steam from breath
  • Lack of appropriate clothing (gloves, ear muffs, hats)
  • Lack of wind and cloud - Antarctica is known to have the highest winds on earth.. but for them that day, nothing.
  • Lack of footage getting to the site
  • No change in brightness and hue of the foreground snow or sky throughout the entire 24-hours, despite the sun changing positions in the sky
  • Overcompensation to validate their claims of being there
  • Critisizing viewers over skepticism, and to trust their word over evidence  
  • Overcompensating to validate their claims and ther strange behaviour


Wit (I think) walks over to one part of the ground, bends down (out of shot) to pick up 'snow', then brings it back to the camera to drop it. Then bends down again to scoop it up, and throws it into the air.. to demonstrate 'that he was actually in Antarctica'. How strange. There's snow everywhere, but he has to go over to a specific point (off camera) to collect some?

There's too many oddities with the whole thing to consider it reliable.

Though I cant help but wonder, what IF Eric Dubay had accepted and gone down there? They must have considered that a possibility and would know Eric would never be a sellout. I shudder to think what they may have done to him if he'd accepted the invitation.. because we're dealing with people who will stop at nothing to keep their narrative going.
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Post by John Thu Dec 19, 2024 10:18 pm

Dactylion wrote:
John wrote:They are maybe using Virtual Production... with a screen like The Sphere in Las Vegas, but 360 degrees
Initially I thought so too, and in my earlier post pointed out the far-off shadows of the mountains cutting short in a direct line, despite the difference in distance and depth, which didnt look right to me, and speculated that it was the point where the screen meets the floor.

Then they position a fake studio sun in the same position as the fake one on-screen, to generate the shadows across everyone in the studio.

When we consider a few of the many other points raised:

  • No steam from breath
  • Lack of appropriate clothing (gloves, ear muffs, hats)
  • Lack of wind and cloud - Antarctica is known to have the highest winds on earth.. but for them that day, nothing.
  • Lack of footage getting to the site
  • No change in brightness and hue of the foreground snow or sky throughout the entire 24-hours, despite the sun changing positions in the sky
  • Overcompensation to validate their claims of being there
  • Critisizing viewers over skepticism, and to trust their word over evidence  
  • Overcompensating to validate their claims and ther strange behaviour


Wit (I think) walks over to one part of the ground, bends down (out of shot) to pick up 'snow', then brings it back to the camera to drop it. Then bends down again to scoop it up, and throws it into the air.. to demonstrate 'that he was actually in Antarctica'. How strange. There's snow everywhere, but he has to go over to a specific point (off camera) to collect some?

There's too many oddities with the whole thing to consider it reliable.

Though I cant help but wonder, what IF Eric Dubay had accepted and gone down there? They must have considered that a possibility and would know Eric would never be a sellout. I shudder to think what they may have done to him if he'd accepted the invitation.. because we're dealing with people who will stop at nothing to keep their narrative going.
I was thinking they knew Eric would not accept, and they would be able to say that he was invited... if he accepted somehow, they would cancel the trip days later, too expensive they would say
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Post by Earthtoed Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:56 am

John wrote:
Dactylion wrote:
John wrote:They are maybe using Virtual Production... with a screen like The Sphere in Las Vegas, but 360 degrees
Initially I thought so too, and in my earlier post pointed out the far-off shadows of the mountains cutting short in a direct line, despite the difference in distance and depth, which didnt look right to me, and speculated that it was the point where the screen meets the floor.

Then they position a fake studio sun in the same position as the fake one on-screen, to generate the shadows across everyone in the studio.

When we consider a few of the many other points raised:

  • No steam from breath
  • Lack of appropriate clothing (gloves, ear muffs, hats)
  • Lack of wind and cloud - Antarctica is known to have the highest winds on earth.. but for them that day, nothing.
  • Lack of footage getting to the site
  • No change in brightness and hue of the foreground snow or sky throughout the entire 24-hours, despite the sun changing positions in the sky
  • Overcompensation to validate their claims of being there
  • Critisizing viewers over skepticism, and to trust their word over evidence  
  • Overcompensating to validate their claims and ther strange behaviour


Wit (I think) walks over to one part of the ground, bends down (out of shot) to pick up 'snow', then brings it back to the camera to drop it. Then bends down again to scoop it up, and throws it into the air.. to demonstrate 'that he was actually in Antarctica'. How strange. There's snow everywhere, but he has to go over to a specific point (off camera) to collect some?

There's too many oddities with the whole thing to consider it reliable.

Though I cant help but wonder, what IF Eric Dubay had accepted and gone down there? They must have considered that a possibility and would know Eric would never be a sellout. I shudder to think what they may have done to him if he'd accepted the invitation.. because we're dealing with people who will stop at nothing to keep their narrative going.
I was thinking they knew Eric would not accept, and they would be able to say that he was invited... if he accepted somehow, they would cancel the trip days later, too expensive they would say

"They" could also just demonstrate some bent water and all of us flat Earthers would just shut up.

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Post by RileySlowWave Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:36 am

i’ve been enjoying Duffy’s victory laps, & do think it’s all sincere & real — so now the model has to refine

i still track Polaris at the same high-window-point year-round, which seems baffling on the prevailing globe model — & of course yes that bathtub water & coming/going sun, the zoomy horizon, etc. etc. etc.

this one’s great
The Final Day - Live from Punta Arenas! https://www.youtube.com/live/jJzREAclmxk?feature=shared
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Post by Ant Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:58 am

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14204879/Flat-Earther-Antarctica-planet-round.html
Check the comment section

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Post by Earthtoed Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:13 am

Ant wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14204879/Flat-Earther-Antarctica-planet-round.html
Check the comment section

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They sure are getting desperate. Took them ten years to even accept FE as a viable concept. They come up with a clearly amateurish expedition complete with FE shills and the headline is the Earth is "round." No joke. It's just not a sphere. SHOW US BENT WATER AND WE WILL SHUT UP.

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Post by enagfis Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:38 pm

1) Do you still consider tfe an experiment?

2) Is it possible that what you observed was NOT due to Earth moving?

3) What did George Biddell Airy show in 1871?

4) What did Albert Michelson and Edward show Morley in 1887?

5) What did Georges Sagnac show in 1913?

6) What did Dayton Miller show many times over?

7) What is a false dichotomy?

Cool How is it possible that observing a light in the sky proves to one the shape of the ground beneath them?

9) DOES YOUR OBSERVATION IN ANTARCTICA PROVE WE LIVE ON A SPINNING PEAR?

10) On a scale from 1-10, how embarrassing has this been for you?

There are many more, but let’s start here, fair?
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Post by FlatEarthHodor Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:59 pm

No controlled opposition will support this.

A decent litmus test:

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Post by Admin Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:26 pm

The Final Strawman Experiment:



The Final Experiment has finally happened, after half a year of hype, Will Duffy’s band of globe defenders have performed what they deem a death blow to flat Earth...
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Post by maril Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:11 pm

Seems pretty dumb tbh. They could release a real video of the north pole, lieing about the location, and be much more convincing. So why do they release such a useless video? Both approaches require complicit participants. Though why would a complicit participant be so confused and useless...

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Post by Earthtoed Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:08 am

maril wrote:Seems pretty dumb tbh.  They could release a real video of the north pole, lieing about the location, and be much more convincing.  So why do they release such a useless video?  Both approaches require complicit participants.  Though why would a complicit participant be so confused and useless...

They know their spinning-ball Earth is in the declining phase of its life cycle. They need to hold on to a constituency of believers while they still can. Many people will catch a mainstream media clip of how FE was debunked for good and believe it. As long as most people accept the heliocentric model, NWO can still operate its illusional realm.

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Post by DC Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:39 pm

Any thoughts on this? Looks pretty damning.  I think more will continue to come out about the LED technology but it appears that the largest scale that I could find was 35,000 square feet, which is about 600x600 depending on the shape. These Production Studios seemingly can be custom built at a fairly rapid speed. So with an unlimited black budget, money is not a problem nor is the effort to conceal the greatest conspiracy of all time.  It would be great to see all the live video again and determine whether any human interactions are within the known 35,000 square ft square foot range that we know exists.

TFE - How they F@ked it !!!!
LED screen technology and TFE
https://youtu.be/4N5ZN410-A4

The Final Experiment - Austin Witsit EXPOSED
Breath fakery.  A second camera angle showing vaping and clearly suspect movements.
https://youtu.be/i46K0P-MpAA
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Post by StoopsTheCat Thu Dec 26, 2024 3:25 pm

This Havney guy is concerning some people. It seems like those reflecting double sun idea is being pushed by an algo. Does anyone know much about him? It would seem that a lot of people are involved in discrediting this movement and I have become pretty cautious about basically everyone but Dubay. That's only because his content is how I got here. Maybe that bias makes it hard for me to see. Idk.

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Post by Earthtoed Thu Dec 26, 2024 4:43 pm

StoopsTheCat wrote:This Havney guy is concerning some people. It seems like those reflecting double sun idea is being pushed by an algo. Does anyone know much about him? It would seem that a lot of people are involved in discrediting this movement and I have become pretty cautious about basically everyone but Dubay. That's only because his content is how I got here. Maybe that bias makes it hard for me to see. Idk.

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At the risk of redundancy: The mainstream media is owned and controlled by NWO; This includes anything on television, Google, YouTube, Twitter X, and Facebook. These and their other large platforms float names to attach to flat-Earth. And the names are always NOT Eric Dubay, the one who revived flat-Earth a decade ago. The NWO knows the cat is out of the bag, and being the forward thinkers they are, they are settling on less educated or manipulable flat-Earthers to pimp. Damage control mode; however, their shadiness is losing its potency as people are now catching on to their secondary movements.


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Post by M.J. Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:39 am

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Just to add to the list of mistakes in their 24h sun fake video, I found this short video on Telegram channel "Flat Earth Society".

Apparently the members of the expedition don't leave footprints in the snow...

Here is the screenshot of the channel and the video if you want to find it there... If you don't want to search it on telegram I've uploaded it to my google drive folder, so here is the link



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PS: Sorry for such a large picture, I need to learn to size it more appropriately...

Here is the link to YouTube videos regarding their so called 24 hour Antarctic sun if you want to try and find the missing footprints... [url=https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=360+timelapse+timelapse+of+capturing+24h+antarctic+sun[/url]

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Post by jspartanlee Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:22 am

DC wrote:TFE - How they F@ked it !!!!
LED screen technology and TFE
https://youtu.be/4N5ZN410-A4
That's definitely how they did it. Mystery solved, it's a 360° LED-screen:

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In reality "Antarctica" is a dark place most of the time.

So it was really an experiment after all, not an observation.
An experiment on how to deceive people with this technology.

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Post by DC Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:51 pm

jspartanlee wrote:

What a great opening for an exposé video/documentary on the TFE.  It would put clearly in the minds of the viewer who we are dealing with.
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Post by Earthtoed Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:22 pm

DC wrote:
jspartanlee wrote:

What a great opening for an exposé video/documentary on the TFE.  It would put clearly in the minds of the viewer who we are dealing with.

It’s comical how Duffy has made himself a conduit of God. An ongoing issue with FE and the rest of the truth movement is the clash with organized religion. Religion is based on beliefs and emotions, while truth is based on knowledge and logic. So, when FE is religion friendly, the waters get muddied. The hyper-emotional Christians I interact with are a product of ancestorial indoctrination. So, on the one hand, pointing out how Genises explains a flat Earth realm changes perspectives on the state of mankind, but deepens religious beliefs. My approach is to treat organized religion with kid gloves. I facilitate rather than lecture and explain my take that spirituality cannot be controlled by man, but religion can.

Is flat Earth apocalyptic enough to shatter organized religion?

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Post by StoopsTheCat Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:43 pm

Moves his foot back and there is 0 impression in the snow from where he was standing. Unless his boots are bald and he weighs 30 lbs, that's impossible.

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Post by Dactylion Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:49 pm

StoopsTheCat wrote:Moves his foot back and there is 0 impression in the snow from where he was standing. Unless his boots are bald and he weighs 30 lbs, that's impossible.
Ah of course. The floor had to be an LED screen, or the snow would have melt over the duration.

It also explains why Witt went to a specific spot to pick up 'snow' as opposed to bend down directly in-front of him.
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Post by FlatEarthHodor Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:52 am

Ben, from the TabooConspiracy channel, has now provided his quick take on the stunt.  

Context:  Ben is the person that analyzed the first two attempts at faking an Antarctica 24-hour sun, and discovered proof of editing & fakery.  

He's pointing out that obvious augmented reality / green screen is in use, at least for one of the videos.  

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