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Post by StoopsTheCat Fri Jan 03, 2025 3:26 pm

DC wrote:You said:
"Another observation (few hours ago) that seems to lend credence to the speculation that the 'TFE' stunt may have been planned as a wedge issue to divide the FE community"

I agree.  This thing was planned and scripted far in advance complete with plot twists and misdirections.  These actors built each other up under the direction and support of Dave.

I think Austin's list is great. Whoever is on it gets points with me.


If I'm not on that list I'm packing it in because I put a ahit ton of effort into it

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Post by Earthtoed Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:04 am

StoopsTheCat wrote:
DC wrote:You said:
"Another observation (few hours ago) that seems to lend credence to the speculation that the 'TFE' stunt may have been planned as a wedge issue to divide the FE community"

I agree.  This thing was planned and scripted far in advance complete with plot twists and misdirections.  These actors built each other up under the direction and support of Dave.

I think Austin's list is great. Whoever is on it gets points with me.


If I'm not on that list I'm packing it in because I put a ahit ton of effort into it

Don't worry. All true flat-Earthers with any kind of viability are on their list. Because their list comes from NWO who doesn't like the truth being spread.

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Post by M.J. Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:40 pm

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If anyone has time to search for flaws in Witsit rebuttal debate please share your observations...


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Post by FlatEarthHodor Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:44 pm

Very similar mass mind control tactics that we saw employed during Covid.  

This time in a microcosm-version against the flat Earth movement.

Even down to carefully-seeded 'influencer' accounts and red-herring accounts to try and discredit the organic members of the movement.


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Post by M.J. Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:48 pm

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The title of the video I've attached above is:
"Was TFE Real or Fake? - Witsit vs. Dustin Nemo (Part 2)"

But, where the fuck is part 1...??? I can't find it anywhere...

I think they botched it in part 1 and then just deleted it...

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Post by StoopsTheCat Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:50 pm

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If anyone has time to search for flaws in Witsit rebuttal debate please share your observations...


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Post by StoopsTheCat Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:52 pm

M.J. wrote:-----
The title of the video I've attached above is:
"Was TFE Real or Fake? - Witsit vs. Dustin Nemo (Part 2)"

But, where the fuck is part 1...??? I can't find it anywhere...

I think they botched it in part 1 and then just deleted it...
https://www.youtube.com/live/cZDgpf7bHG0?si=sYSy9y6dDrhKZfCa

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Post by M.J. Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:56 pm

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I literally did the search by the title of the video "Was TFE Real or Fake? - Witsit vs. Dustin Nemos" and YouTube only shows part 2 in the results...

Strange...

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Post by enagfis Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:59 pm

This is getting weirder and weirder.

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Post by DC Sat Jan 04, 2025 2:01 pm

M.J. wrote:-----
The title of the video I've attached above is:
"Was TFE Real or Fake? - Witsit vs. Dustin Nemo (Part 2)"

But, where the fuck is part 1...??? I can't find it anywhere...

I think they botched it in part 1 and then just deleted it...


Another one that is 2hr 39m on Bitchute

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ArW5u3oO7o8s/
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Post by enagfis Sat Jan 04, 2025 2:06 pm

M.J. wrote:-----
I literally did the search by the title of the video "Was TFE Real or Fake? - Witsit vs. Dustin Nemos" and YouTube only shows part 2 in the results...

Strange...
I watched it. It was over-the-top, biassedly moderated by Weiss.
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Part 1:
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Post by M.J. Sat Jan 04, 2025 2:32 pm

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YouTube link --- Was TFE Real or Fake? - Witsit vs. Dustin Nemos

In the video linked above at 14,26 mark Witsit says:
"I promise that I went to Antarctica..."

Promise...??? Shouldn't you have said "I swear that I went to Antarctic..."


Promise implies future action...!


People that lie also tend to mispronounce the words. He says Antarctica with an A at the end of the word instead of saying Antarctic...

Witsit is a goose that just keeps on giving...


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Post by StoopsTheCat Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:00 pm

FlatEarthHodor wrote:The Truth About "The Final Experiment" - Page 5 Social-Pressure
 I'll admit that I did pay 2 dollars for a super chat that said "Dave Weiss is a zionist shill"  Worth it imo

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Post by M.J. Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:06 pm

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At 22,08 of the same video Witsit talks about snow in Antarctic and says:
"It is really compacted ice effects, we couldn't even call it snow. It's just ice."

Effects...?? Strange word to use...


This then raises other questions:

How did you find snow to pick up if it is all ice?
Why is nobody walking like it a slippery surface? Do they have spikes on their boots? Do the spikes live marks in the snow/ice?
Why when McToon is walking around talking on the phone the sound of snow crunching under his feet is heard?
People running marathon on ice in plain footwear/snickers?

Witsit in the same 22 minute of the video says that footprints are sometimes left and sometimes are not, and he says he doesn't know why that happens...


Oh my god, we now have the magic snow... sorry, magic ice... or is it snow... They are so confused that I'm starting to be confused...
Shocked   Very Happy Very Happy

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Post by enagfis Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:00 pm

Has Jeran hung a "Grissom Lemon" for us?

"The sun will dip down right here, it doesn't go behind that mountain, it goes right above it, comes over here, gets back up high in the North and then uhhhh…  IT SETS!"

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Post by Earthtoed Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:16 pm

No need to beat a dead horse, they didn't prove ANYTHING.

The whole Antarctica experiment serves as a strawman, and that's why characters like Weiss keep discussing it. I see this experiment already has an alphabet acronym the shills are repeating (TFE).

All true flat-Earthers know how easy and inexpensive it is to prove the Earth is flat and motionless. Level water, horizon, lasers, spherical trigonometry, telescopes, fixed stars, airplane travels, engineers, zero authentic photos from space agencies all prove flat Earth by using our senses. The Earth is flat and motionless, and the burden of proof is on those who can disprove these simple tests.


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Post by FlatEarthHodor Sat Jan 04, 2025 6:26 pm

When Jeran was first promoting the Antarctica staged event in the summer, there were a couple times where he purposefully kept the emotion high, and was always on the attack.   Really shrill swearing and cursing, combined with straw men and gaslighting his own audience.  

The reason for this is that when responding to well-reasoned, rational doubts, it is a good strategy to keep the emotion high.  

Because emotion overrides rational thinking.

Witsit did the same thing throughout the Nemos exchange.  He was hyper-emotional, and took personal offense multiple times that flat Earthers - the most authority-skeptical people in the world - would not believe his personal assurances about observing the 24-hour sun.  He used insulting language with Nemos throughout, including usage of the word 'retarded' and 'stupid' too many times to count.  Not calm and rational ... at all.  

For me, the behavior gives it away.  

Lost track how many times he's called fellow flat Earthers 'retarded' in the last week alone.  He is absolutely horrendous, and worse than Jeran, if that's possible.
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The TOC for PART 2 (ONLY) the debate, with some notes by me:  

5:30  'multiple exhalations per vape'

7:40  'Owen Benjamin' video  

9:00 Austin incredulity at possibility of combination of real and fake footage

16:00 temperature considerations

26:20:  Lack of parallax  

36:57  Austin makes reference to more footage that will 'drop' and indicates it will be 360 footage.  

38:32 Austin then labels all of the cameras in question in a video (who owns it and what type of camera it is)  

38:00 Austin says "this is coming.  We have multiple people working on it."    

39:29:  "Why is the sun so high in the sky?"
 
46:30  Dustin points out that we're 'questioning the science, just like you told us to do.'  

49:00 Local light sources

50:29  TIMESTAMP:  Odd shadow in Austin's shared video.   The shadow is warped and can’t be tracked to the casting object.    

52:50 Shadows and anomalies (blobs)  

66:21:  Austin then doubles down on divergent angles from the sun and claims that it would naturally produce this effect (90 degree difference in shadow angles coming off the same tripod)  

1:08:00: Dustin (correctly) indicates that Dave's video cannot explain away the tripod divergence.  

1:09:00  Austin again interrupts and snaps "I was there", indicating that he feels insulted by the continued discussion.  

1:09:00 Austin references an upcoming interview with Candace Owens and says that the creator made her lose her voice for his benefit and the benefit of flat Earth truth.  

Austin indicates again how stupid we will feel once subsequent videos are released.  

1:12:00 Austin asks 'why do you want it to be fake so bad?"  

Things get heated at that point, and Dustin says directly "come on man, you vaped."  Austin doesn't answer directly, but instead says 'come on'.  

1:13:58  Missing camp with same mountain in background

1:20:00 Repeating CGI assets (clouds, etc..)  

1:23:59 Re-used mountains

Cloud or Lens Flares: Austin makes the point that the clouds are moving in the same direction as the sun.  

1:44:11  Dustin begins his summation

1:44:40  Bizarre:  Austin interrupts Dustin again and acts exasperated, and then calls Dustin "Amanda"  

As Dustin continues, Austin stands up and leaves, completely disrespecting Dustin.  

1:49:30  Austin's closing speech.  After saying he appreciates the 'spirit of skepticism', he uses the pejorative 'stupid' a half dozen times to address the concerns from flat Earthers.  

1:51:56 Austin repeats that the 'file size' of the video file is why it is taking so long for all the other footage to be publicized.  

9 Hours ago, Dustin posted his own take of the debate:

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Post by M.J. Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:57 pm

FlatEarthHodor wrote:
1:09:00 Austin references an upcoming interview with Candace Owens and says that the creator made her lose her voice for his benefit and the benefit of flat Earth truth.  

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Candace Owens is just another gatekeeper, the controlled opposition...

As I've pointed out about Owen Benjamin rant about paganism, here we have Candace who researches flat earth and comes to realization that science is a pagan faith...

So we have truth mixed with a lie... Everybody knows that science today is controlled with money, we know who controls the money, but Candace decides that the main culprit of it all is pagan faith... Zionists are nowhere close to her mind.... Go figure...

She is just another shill, can't wait to see her interview with Witsit...


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Eric I don't know if you've seen this video, but just be aware that so called 'King Nico' is a possible shill...


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