Chemtrails, Geo-engineering And HAARP

Schpankme wrote:

Realearth wrote:
they are spraying us like cockroaches

You don't have any proof for Chemtrails beyond promoting Fear Mongering Videos or Government Global Conspiracy to cool the Globe.  What's even more absurd is that the Freemasons like Al Gore are promoting GLOBAL WARMING (now called Climate Change).

You take absolutely no precaution from Chemtrails yet you claim to be inhaling or bathing in them, daily.

You sound like Metabunk guy Mick West who retaired from video game industry like Mark Sergant.  
Chem trails it is not conspiracy theory anymore is a fact! We know that chemtrails do exist because they do the spraying; for crops, for example, and we know that they have been spraying for military purposes. So chemtrails is not new. We know about it. Military used  Agent Orange during the Vietnam War, what do you think at they now became more compassionate toward goym? there are hundreds of both official and unofficial documents exploring and exposing the military and civil aviation antics responsible for spraying layer upon layer of toxic aerosol “chemtrails” in the sky above our heads on an almost daily basis for the past ten years.

Kostas wrote:
You sound like Metabunk guy Mick West who retaired from video game industry like Mark Sergant.  
Chem trails it is not conspiracy theory anymore is a fact

You come here with a lack of commonsense and try to compare my body of work on this Forum with Balltard Shills?
You really are an indoctrinated piece of work.

We are not talking about Agent Orange the defoliant chemical used by Christpsychotics within the US INC Military.
We are not talking about Prop Planes delivering the chemicals at low levels like planes used to fight Forest Fires.

What we are talking about is people claiming to see COMMERCIAL PASSENGER JETS, at 40,000 Feet, spraying Chemicals through their Engines!

REPEAT AFTER ME: I take absolutely no precaution from the Chemtrails that I claim to be inhaling, daily.

I agree 100% with Schpankme.

There is no proof of chemicals being droped on us from commercial planes all over this flat plane, but there is proof that they can modify weather, and this is what they actualy might be doing.

I think this agenda with chemtrials is another propagated story to make us sound like idiots.

Schpankme wrote:

You come here with a lack of commonsense and try to compare my body of work on this Forum with Balltard Shills?
You really are an indoctrinated piece of work.

Your ad hominem attacks do not conform to the rules or intent of this forum.
Peace

Real World wrote:
There is no proof of chemicals being droped on us from commercial planes all over this flat plane

I think this agenda with chemtrials is another propagated story to make us sound like idiots.

I have to agree, this TOPIC: Chemtrails, Geo-engineering and HAARP is just another attempt to make IFERS look like a bunch of Conspiracy Nut Jobs, which has nothing to do with the flat Earth, but will be used to beat us over the head for providing disinfo.

Let us further notice that the guy who created the "original" TOPIC was named "planetruth aka aplanetruth aka Jamie W. Lee aka The Flat Earth Skeptics Society".  You will find that he was exposed by me for being yet another Fear Monger sent here to discredit IFERS, he further implicates himself in having the original IFERS taken down so he could worship his Jew controllers and their holocaust denier nonsense.

  "For months IFERS has been an an all out attack on Jews, (not the real perps, the Jesuits, mind you), anti-Hitler, homosexuals...)"

also see:  Planetruth Is The Most Pathetic, Deluded Shill Of All

Least we forget, when the fear mongers can't have it their way they start name calling, in fact they've tried to silence me by petitioning the Admin Team, and once again on Topic where these same infiltrators called out for me to be banned.

Real World wrote:
There is no proof of chemicals being droped on us from commercial planes all over this flat plane, but there is proof that they can modify weather, and this is what they actualy might be doing.

Interesting statement,
If "there is proof that they can modify weather", as you suggest, is this not done by dropping chemicals from planes?

What doesn't sit right with me is that this topic is also in the general media sometimes and in bullshit-shows like alex jones. For me the exact details remain vague as to why this would be done. Even if it is done to subdue the population or something like create fake global warming then there is for sure going to be a lot of misinformation/misdirection around something like this. Also while we are looking at the sky for UFOs and chem-trails our oceans are littered with plastic and toxic waste wasting marine life. To me that is more of an attack created not by the government but by "normal" humans living their life as per usual

Schpankme wrote:
Least we forget, when the fear mongers can't have it their way they start name calling, in fact they've tried to silence me by petitioning the Admin Team, and once again on Topic where these same infiltrators called out for me to be banned.

Schpankme, in my humble opinion, you are a very aggressive integral part of this forum and should never be banned.

I am look like idiot over 15 years now when telling people about anything I know. I have observed blue sky turning into pale haze in less than 30 min. from innocent jet contrails, covering the sun completely. I have seen igniting lights in the chem clouds similar like in this video:

I have seen dead fish and sea stars,crabs and jellyfish  on the sea bottom near the coast line, probably from rain after heavy two day spraying over Oslo.  
Do you have any proof that they do not add any additives into jet fuel?
I have took rain water samples many times myself to test PH after spraying , tests showing PH very low round 5 and 6 its very acidic, normal PH is 7,5, now they push agenda that acidic soil and water is ok.
If you do not see bombs falling from the sky that didn't mean that we living in peace.
What about additive in jet fuel? guys you need educate yourself it is like talking about how safe vaccines are, because i have no proof? take your rose glasses of!  There are plenty of proof pilots and engineers talking about it, environmentalists taking samples of water and soil, videos on this subject constantly are terminated. Since 1958 many new chemicals have been added to all types of jet fuel. Some of them remain classified in the interests of for „national security“ (of course).   No doubt that in the 1990’s  new tank designs and fuel additives allowed TMA to be added to jet aviation fuels with far less risk than implied in the Lewis Flight Propulsion Labs report: Chemtrails Produced by Aviation Fuel Laced With Trimethylaluminum?
As an additive to aviation fuel, trimethyaluminum (TMA) is easily capable of producing long white trails of aluminum oxide aerosols  – aka Chemtrails
During the “Single Fuel Concept” conversion from 1988-1996, all NATO aircraft switched from gasoline based fuel (JP-5) to kerosene (diesel) fuel (JP- 8 ) the aluminum content of the fuels tripled. See this chart Trace Element and Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbon Analyses of Jet Engine Fuels: Jet A, JP5, and JP8:

What about testing on people with various chemicals:  

Do not be afraid they kill people every day with food, medicine, vaccines, abortion,  radiation, mind programing, alcohol and drugs, its more effective than any direct military action.

Kostas wrote:
I look like idiot over 15 years
from innocent jet contrails

Chemtrails Produced by Aviation Fuel
additive to aviation fuel
is easily capable of producing long white trails of aluminum oxide aerosols  – aka Chemtrails

REALLY?  Now you claim ADDITIVES to Aviation Fuel produces Chemtrails in Commercial Airliners?  bahaha

Lets talk reality:
Jet A is based on unleaded kerosene
Jet-A powers modern commercial airliners and is a mix of pure kerosene and burns at temperatures at or above 49 degrees Celsius (120 degrees Fahrenheit).

Take your Fear Mongering down the hall, there you will find a door on the left called Religion.

Realearth wrote:

Schpankme wrote:
Least we forget, when the fear mongers can't have it their way they start name calling, in fact they've tried to silence me by petitioning the Admin Team, and once again on Topic where these same infiltrators called out for me to be banned.

Schpankme, in my humble opinion, you are a very aggressive integral part of this forum and should never be banned.

Sorry for name calling! nothing personal  you just reminded me government shill Mick West anti fear monger guy – editor of anti-conspiracy theory website Metabunk.   Who is biggest chemtrail denier, pro vaccine  and so on... he would be happy to have you on board.
Do you think I should list all different methods how they making chemtrails? Military and private doing it daily using for different reasons with various chemicals and techniques.
Are you pretending that you are all knowing all seeing and have privelege to attack everyone who have different view ?

Chemtrail conspiracy started long before global warming Agenda, now when they can not hide it anymore they have good excuse that spraying the sky is good stop global warming.
About chemicals in jet fuel information I took from goverment document: SSC San Diego
San Diego, CA 92152-5001 : TECHNICAL REPORT 1845
December 2000
Trace Element and
Polycyclic Aromatic
Hydrocarbon Analyses
of Jet Engine Fuels:
Jet A, JP5, and JP8
There are hundreds of documents and patents on different chemicals, methods, equipment  just do not be stubborn study the case yourself before attacking anyone!

Holy shit my notification feed. Don't know why y'all are doing so much back and forth. Clearly a couple people "know" chemtrails don't exist and clearly y'all others think otherwise. Sounds like an argument meant to go nowhere.

Schpankme wrote:
Lets talk reality:
Jet A is based on unleaded kerosene
Jet-A powers modern commercial airliners and is a mix of pure kerosene and burns at temperatures at or above 49 degrees Celsius (120 degrees Fahrenheit).

I am continually researching this issue, would like to know the Jet fuel content source material or tests that support your statements above.
Thx

Kostas wrote:
Schpankme
you remind me government shill Mick West
anti fear monger

Did you really think to engage me with such nonsense as "anti fear monger"?

What's even more ridiculous is that You Claim "anti-fear-mongers" work for the government; can we then establish that Fear Mongering is an acceptable practice for the indoctrinated?

Next we have, "Kostas" psychosis, where Fuel Additives used in Jet-A causes Chemtrails, yet, this same fuel is used in all Business Jets and Turbo Props, they do not produce the same Contrail as the LARGE high bypass engines used on the large Commercial Airliners.

Realearth wrote:

Real World wrote:
There is no proof of chemicals being droped on us from commercial planes all over this flat plane, but there is proof that they can modify weather, and this is what they actualy might be doing.

Interesting statement,
If "there is proof that they can modify weather", as you suggest, is this not done by dropping chemicals from planes?

Goverments can modify weather not only from the sky. Please learn how fog or clouds can be created other way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16PWuND0ybk
Idea that every day, nearly everywhere in the world, goverments are poisoning whole humanity, even themselfes is another vision of armagedon story given to us with no verifable proof at all.

This agenda can be also used to scarry us from eating natural grown food like wegetables and fruits, couse most of them could be already sprayed from jetplanes.

Kostas is my real name I'm not hiding under nickname, for me is very strange that you go hand in hand with government officials and mainstream science who denies chemtrail existents, promotes Vaccines, Birth control, Cancer industry, GMO, Fluoridated water, Global warming, Space science and so on....
I will repeat again they kill people every day with food, medicine, vaccines, abortion,  radiation, mind programing, alcohol and drugs...  I'm not claiming  that I know what they spraying particular day , one day it can be military shooting aluminum fiber to hide ground movement from radar sistems, another day private companies seeding clouds, or creating rain or drought, or making clouds to find oil by using Harp technology, and tell me why they can not spray just to poison us as they did over Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, for population control similar like they doing it with Vaccines?   In every case they use chemicals harmful to humans,animals and plants.
And I showed to you that even jet fuel is full with poisonous additives and you ridiculed me, I can send you copy of technical raport Trace Element and
Polycyclic Aromatic, Hydrocarbon Analyses of Jet Engine Fuels. for US Navy
 I see that you are experts personally supplying jets with clean kerosene without any additives. The irony is we do not know what they doing and easiest way is to be ignorant. But in your case shapkame I see just big ego pretending to be all knowing all seeing gate keeper attacking real people who has different view than your Agenda. I never suspected that I gonna comment on this forum thread as for me chem trails and geoengineering not conspiracy anymore not like it was 10 years ago. Please take heavy psilocybin or ayahuasca trip and face yourself.
Peace

Kostas wrote:
Kostas is my real name

government officials and mainstream science
promotes Birth control

take heavy psilocybin or ayahuasca

What do you see in this video, contrails or chemtrails?


WWII Belgium (1945)

All would agree this forum is about research of verifiable repeatable facts, not ad hominem attacks or personal beliefs.

CHEMTRAIL DENIERS HATE THIS VIDEO real contrails prove chemtrails!

YOU ONLY NEED SIX WORDS TO STOP CHEMTRAILS: *NO SUCH THING AS GREENHOUSE GAS* nosuchthingasgreenhousegas.com

Schpankme wrote:

Kostas wrote:
Kostas is my real name

government officials and mainstream science
promotes Birth control

take heavy psilocybin or ayahuasca

What do you see in this video, contrails or chemtrails?


WWII Belgium (1945)

What kind of planes are those? What is their altitude? Does this happen in the summer and other weather conditions? Do you've evidence they're not actually releasing some kind of exhaust on purpose, like for training? Do you've evidence that vid is really from Belgium?

Schpankme wrote:

Kostas wrote:
Kostas is my real name

government officials and mainstream science
promotes Birth control

take heavy psilocybin or ayahuasca

What do you see in this video, contrails or chemtrails?


WWII Belgium (1945)

Did I said that condensation trails do not exist? It can be contrails from bombers exhaust smoke in high altitude , can be signal flares, curtain smoke or just fighting,burning smoke. video is just 15 sec. Propelled planes incapable to make persistent trails to make haze and cover the whole visible sky like today just one or two chemtrails can do. Look at video from WW 2:


Aerial Smoke Curtain WWII

Kostas wrote:

Did I said that condensation trails do not exist
It can be contrails
persistent trails

So YES, back during WWII when massive engines compressed large amounts of air we also see "Persistent Contrails", which spread covering the whole area.

Schpankme wrote:

Kostas wrote:

Did I said that condensation trails do not exist
It can be contrails
persistent trails

So YES, back during WWII when massive engines compressed large amounts of air we also see "Persistent Contrails", which spread covering the whole area.

At list you are polite now How propelled airplanes compress air ?

Kostas wrote:
At list you are polite now

The answer you should have provided is -- YES -- propeller planes from WWII did produce "Persistent Contrails".

Should we now classify Contrails as normal, persistent, and chemically enhanced?

Schpankme wrote:

Kostas wrote:
At list you are polite now

The answer you should have provided is -- YES -- propeller planes from WWII did produce "Persistent Contrails".  

Should we now classify Contrails as normal, persistent, and chemically enhanced?

Yes we can classify contrails as normals not persistent and narrow, but what about chemtrails ? can we classify as not normals fast expanding,persistent , when one or two trails covers the whole sky for a day and creates anomalies in the sky and ground?

Sorry you said: back during WWII when massive engines compressed large amounts of air we also see "Persistent Contrails", which spread covering the whole area.
And you did not answer
How propelled airplanes compress air ?

Kostas wrote:
Yes we can classify contrails

During WWII we see "Persistent Contrails" created by both Fighters and Bombers, and this is because (simple version) Exhaust Gases and Superchargers, super heat and compress the Air entering the Engine turning the water vapor into Steam.

NOTE:  
Engine exhausts routinely turn into contrails
At 500°F, water vapor in the form of Steam will expand approximately 2,400 times it's volume
Supercharger and Turbocharges are used to Compress Air entering the engine

September 1942, NACA’s Langley Memorial Aeronautical Laboratory issued a report on condensation trails.
"water in the exhausts of aircraft engines produce about 1.25 pounds of water for each pound of aviation fuel burned."